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BBall Recruiting Thread 2k16- SJM, Washington, Childress & Mitchell sign NLIs; 2017?

wakelaw13 said:
How about we lock this shit up and talk about 2017
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For those of you who are interested:

Class of 2017:

Point Guard: (2017)

Trevon Duval (5-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Arizona, Kansas, UCLA, Louisville, Syracuse, Indiana, Maryland, NC State, California, Villanova, Cincinnati, Oregon, Connecticut, Pittsburgh, Alabama, Missouri, Rutgers, Virginia Tech, Seton Hall, Miami, St. John's, Penn State, South Carolina, UNLV, DePaul, and SMU.

Alex Barcello (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Arizona, Virginia, Memphis, Providence, Oregon, Arizona State, Utah, New Mexico, Creighton, Washington State, Colorado, USC, and Saint Mary's.

Blake Harris (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Florida State, Cincinnati, Georgia Tech, Miami, Clemson, UCF, Seton Hall, Virginia Tech, UNC Greensboro Columbia, and Norfolk State.

Paul Scruggs (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Kansas, Illinois, Michigan State, Indiana, Xavier, and Purdue.

Tremont Waters (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Stanford, Connecticut, St. John's, Seton Hall, Purdue, and Yale.

Lavar Batts Jr. (3-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Tennessee, NC State, Old Dominion, Charlotte, Loyola (MD.), and Yale.

Darius Perry (3-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Florida State, Alabama, Minnesota, Xavier, Kansas State, Texas Tech, and Winthrop.

Jonathan Hicklin (UR: NO OFFER): No offers.

Rick "Doc" Nelson Jr. (UR: NO OFFER): UT-Arlington and Lamar.

James West IV (UR: NO OFFER): Norfolk State and Howard.

Romin Williams (UR: NO OFFER): Loyola (New Orleans)


Shooting Guard: (2017)

Hamidou Diallo (5-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Kansas, Florida, Villanova, Maryland, Louisville, NC State, Indiana, Iowa State, Minnesota, Providence, Connecticut, St. John's, Seton Hall, VCU, Temple, Massachusetts, USC, Iona, Duquesne, St. Bonaventure, Fairfield, Cal State Bakersfield, St. Peter's, and Quinnipiac.

D.J. Harvey (5-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Duke, UCLA, Louisville, Arizona, Georgetown, Connecticut, Virginia, Texas, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Notre Dame, Villanova, Oregon, Maryland, NC State, Miami, Memphis, Oklahoma State, Xavier, Houston, and Winthrop.

Mitchell Ballock (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Kansas, Indiana, Iowa State, Missouri, Northwestern, Nebraska, Kansas State, Creighton, and Tulsa.

Greg Floyd Jr. (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Arizona, Virginia, Memphis, Washington, Auburn, Oklahoma, West Virginia, San Diego State, UNLV, Kansas State, St. John's, Purdue, Miami, Massachusetts, Seton Hall, TCU, Boston College, USC, New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado State, Utah State, and Fresno State.

Jamal Johnson (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Alabama, Georgia, Texas Tech, Florida, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Texas A&M, Kansas State, Murray State, Auburn, and Mississippi.

Charles O'Bannon Jr. (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Kansas, Oregon, UCLA, Arizona, Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas, Texas A&M, UNLV, Washington, California, Georgia Tech, Utah, NC State, Texas Tech, and USC.

Brandon Rachal (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Miami, Creighton, Kansas State, Virginia Tech, UMass, Tulane, Louisiana Tech, UAB, and New Orleans.

Devontae Shuler (4-star: NO OFFER): USC and Stephen F. Austin.

Nickeil Alexander-Walker (3-star: NO OFFER): Virginia Tech, Vermont and New Mexico State.

Marquis Godwin (3-star: NO OFFER): Rice, Richmond, Hofstra, Norfolk State, Old Dominion, Hampton, Howard, and UMES.

Tavin Lovan (3-star: NO OFFER): Western Kentucky, Eastern Kentucky, Toledo, Winthrop, and Southeast Missouri State

A.J. Oliver (3-star: NO OFFER): Clemson, Charleston, USC-Upstate, Old Dominion, and Wofford.

Jordan Poole (3-star: NO OFFER): Auburn, Illinois, Virginia Tech, Bradley, Illinois-Chicago, Sam Houston State, Green Bay, and Drake.

Jordan Usher (3-star: NO OFFER): Nebraska, DePaul, Florida International, North Florida, and Alcorn State.

Hendon Hooker (UR: NO OFFER): NC A&T [Football recruit]

Michael Hueitt Jr. (UR: NO OFFER): Old Dominion, Western Carolina, UNCG, Hampton, James Madison and Liberty.

Kaleb Hunter (UR: NO OFFER): Charlotte, East Carolina and Old Dominion.

J.P Moorman (UR: NO OFFER): Richmond, Charleston, Charlotte, UMES, and NC A&T.


Small Forward: (2017)

Kevin Knox (5-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, NC State, Louisiana State, Florida, Virginia Tech, Texas Tech, Maryland, Georgia, Florida State, Xavier, Miami and Memphis.

Kimani Lawrence (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Xavier, Creighton, Miami, Providence, Rhode Island, and St. Bonaventure.

Nicholas Claxton (3-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Baylor, Florida State, Temple, USC, Murray State, Jacksonville, and New Orleans.

Timmel "Melo" Eggleston (3-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Baylor, Texas Tech, Georgia Tech, Louisiana State, Georgia, Miami, Virginia Tech, Nebraska, USC, Oregon State, Boise State, Washington State, and Loyola (MD).

Justin Smith (3-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Northwestern, Indiana, Illinois, Purdue, DePaul, and Rice.

David Caraher (3-star: NO OFFER): Butler, Charlotte, Santa Clara, Radford, Houston Baptist, and Appalachian State [De-Committed from Butler]

Curtis Hollis (3-star: NO OFFER): UTEP, Wright State, Duquesne, North Texas, Florida International, Cal State Fullerton, Lamar, and Southern.

Anthony "A.J." Wilson Jr. (3-star: NO OFFER): VCU, Penn State, Central Florida, Miami (OH), Charleston, Charlotte, Chattanooga, Stony Brook, Drexel, Nevada, Towson, and Monmouth.


Power Forward: (2017)

Mohammed Bamba (5-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Kentucky, Duke, Missouri, St. Joh's, Indiana, Arizona State, Providence, West Virginia, Georgia Tech, Kansas, Florida State, Arizona, Syracuse, Connecticut, Seton Hall, Rice, Yale, Temple, Penn State, James Madison, Texas, Maryland, and Villanova.

Matur Maker (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest and Indiana.

Malik Williams (4-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Michigan State, Indiana, Xavier, Cincinnati, Purdue and Toledo.

Daniel Mading (4-star: NO OFFER): Florida, Connecticut, Georgetown, St. John's, Missouri, Washington State, Georgia, Virginia Tech, Kansas State, Louisiana State, Seton Hall, South Carolina, Texas Tech, Arizona State, Nebraska, USC, Colorado State, Boise State, and James Madison.

Alex Reese (4-star: NO OFFER): Kansas, Alabama, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Georgia, Kansas State, Mississippi, UAB, Murray State, and New Mexico State.

P.J. Washington (4-star: NO OFFER): Texas, Arizona, Baylor, Michigan State, California, Connecticut, Memphis, Mississippi State, Tennessee, Oklahoma State, Arizona State, Alabama, Miami, Texas A&M, UNLV, SMU, and Middle Tennessee State.

Ejike Obinna (UR: NO OFFER): George Mason.


Center: (2017)

Wendell Carter Jr. (5-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, Arizona, North Carolina, California, LSU, Auburn, Texas A&M, Kansas State, Vanderbilt, Georgia, and Murray State.

Ikechukwu 'Ikey' Obiagu (5-star: NO OFFER): Kansas, Florida, Auburn, Georgia Tech, LSU, Alabama, Missouri, Cincinnati, Memphis, Butler, Virginia, Tennessee, Georgia, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Purdue, Kansas State, SMU and Long Beach State.

Chinedu 'Victor' Uyaelunmo (3-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Florida State, Memphis, and Miami.

Brendan Newton (3-star: NO OFFER): Appalachian State and Liberty.


Class of 2018:

Point Guard: (2018)

Darius Garland (5-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Louisville, Baylor, Virginia, Memphis, Tennessee, Arizona State, Vanderbilt, Western Kentucky, and Texas Southern.

Javonte Smart (5-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Ohio State, Baylor, LSU, Oklahoma, Vanderbilt, St. John's, Creighton, and UMass

Israel Barnes (4-star: NO OFFER): No offer.

Drue Drinnon (UR: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Florida, Memphis, Missouri, Kansas State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Georgia State, Charlotte, and UT Martin.

Devon Dotson (UR: NO OFFER): Clemson, Charlotte, Winthrop, Hampton, and Georgia Southern.

Kody Shubert (UR: NO OFFER): No offers.


Shooting Guard: (2018)

Keldon Johnson (5-star: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Texas, NC State, Virginia, Georgetown, Cincinnati, Virginia Tech, Penn State, East Carolina, and Old Dominion.

Montez Mathis (4-star: NO OFFER): Memphis, St. John's, West Virginia, and Southern California.

Rechon Black (UR: OFFERED): Wake Forest, Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Charlotte, Western Carolina, and Georgia Southern.

Will Dillard (UR: OFFERED): Wake Forest and Charlotte.

John Newman (UR: NO OFFER): Charlotte.

Keshaun Saunders (UR: NO OFFER): Illinois.

Tre' Turner (UR: NO OFFER): No offers.


Small Forward: (2018)

Robert Woodard (4-star: NO OFFER): Baylor, Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi State, and Alcorn State.

Isaiah Mucius (UR: OFFERED): Wake Forest and St. John's.

Akuwovo "Savior" Ogeneyole (UR: OFFERED): Wake Forest and Seton Hall.

Emmanuel Akot (UR: NO OFFER): Virginia Tech.

Boubacar Diakite (UR: NO OFFER): No offers.

Brandon Johns (UR: NO OFFER): Alabama.


Power Forward: (2018)

Jordan Brown (5-star: NO OFFER): Arizona, UCLA, California, San Francisco, and Nevada.

Ian Steere (UR: NO OFFER): Charlotte.


Center: (2018)

Connor Vanover (UR: NO OFFER): Arkansas, Alabama, and Mississippi.


Class of 2019:

PG - Mike Green (UR: NO OFFER)

SF - Wendell Moore, Jr. (UR: OFFERED) and Joey Baker (UR: NO OFFER).

PF - Dexter Shouse (UR: NO OFFER)
 
Hey, guys! Just checking the boards now. I DVR'd the Giles announcement so nobody spoil it for me!
 
I'm very glad that I don't have nearly as much emotion vested in an internet message board as some of you, regardless of whether you truly feel that way or its a show.

I know BSD's source, and I agree wholeheartedly with their decision to not reveal any more than they did. Doing so would have definitely put someone's job in jeopardy, and its not worth it to risk that for a group of keyboard warriors on an internet message board. I think its safe to say nobody would in any way, shape, or form be willing to stake their career on our little corner of the internet. While not the best delivery, they were willing to say what they could.

I appreciate kvegas and others who offer up information when they can. Will it ever be 100% correct, hell no, but at least they're willing to stick their neck out there to try and provide discussion to a group of people they'll probably never meet. Without their input, its one big chat thread and a discussion of what little scraps we receive from the local media (who also do a great job with what they've got). It's senseless to eat our own, but its been that way with the different incarnations of the boards as long as I can remember.

The information posted here is and always will be free. We rely on people to post what they know out of the goodness of their heart. You want to know why we dont have very many green super users left? This whole saga should answer that for you. If you want subscription quality information, Les over at Rivals, the folks at 24/7, and the folks at Scout would be happy to take your business.

"And go fuck yourselves you petulant little shits"
 
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RacerDeac said:
And that our coach is substantially better than he has yet shown.
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The bball community seems to think that way....other coaches, recruits, analysts, etc. I think he's finding players that are better than their rankings would suggest as well but we'll see. We wouldn't have jumped from 124 to 60 in the Ken Pom rankings if he didn't think we're moving in the right direction on both fronts. It's a shame we missed on Giles.....Bz cost us that one....but I think we're going to be better than people think this year and will keep building momentum.
 
tsywake said:
I'm very glad that I don't have nearly as much emotion vested in an internet message board as some of you, regardless of whether you truly feel that way or its a show.

I know BSD's source, and I agree wholeheartedly with their decision to not reveal any more than they did. Doing so would have definitely put someone's job in jeopardy, and its not worth it to risk that for a group of keyboard warriors on an internet message board. I think its safe to say nobody would in any way, shape, or form be willing to stake their career on our little corner of the internet. While not the best delivery, they were willing to say what they could.

I appreciate kvegas and others who offer up information when they can. Will it ever be 100% correct, hell no, but at least they're willing to stick their neck out there to try and provide discussion to a group of people they'll probably never meet. Without their input, its one big chat thread and a discussion of what little scraps we receive from the local media (who also do a great job with what they've got). It's senseless to eat our own, but its been that way with the different incarnations of the boards as long as I can remember.

The information posted here is and always will be free. We rely on people to post what they know out of the goodness of their heart. You want to know why we dont have very many green super users left? This whole saga should answer that for you. If you want subscription quality information, Les over at Rivals, the folks at 24/7, and the folks at Scout would be happy to take your business.
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You forgot to add, "and go fuck yourselves, you petulant little shits."
 
jesus you pussies, just say it was the director of basketball operations, he's not going to lose his job.
 
pourdeac said:
The bball community seems to think that way....other coaches, recruits, analysts, etc. I think he's finding players that are better than their rankings would suggest as well but we'll see. We wouldn't have jumped from 124 to 60 in the Ken Pom rankings if he didn't think we're moving in the right direction on both fronts. It's a shame we missed on Giles.....Bz cost us that one....but I think we're going to be better than people think this year and will keep building momentum.
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How KenPom determines pre-season rankings:

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/2016_preseason_ratings
 
Deacsfan27 said:
How KenPom determines pre-season rankings:

http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/entry/2016_preseason_ratings
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Thanks. The rankings include player evaluation so our analytics must have improved quite a bit (relative to other teams). That's a good thing, yes?

Returning personnel is considered as well. Generally, the more players returning, the better. However, the quality of the player is also a factor. Losing a high-usage/high-efficiency player hurts a team’s offense a lot more than losing a role player.
 
Ball State Deac said:
Why are people pissed at dofus for sharing info he got?
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Nobody is pissed at him for sharing info. People are annoyed that he tried to say that he couldn't write an article but he could post it here. If he had wrote an article on BSD that just said "Harry isn't coming to Wake" - it would be essentially the same thing as what he posted.

Could you imagine Andy Katz's editor saying, "hey Andy, you don't have that sourced well enough or it was given to us off the record so we can't publish" and then him turning around and posting it on a message board? Whether anyone knew it was Andy Katz posting would be immaterial - it would still be a major breach of journalism ethics.
 
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