What the crap are you talking about? I've been a Wake fan for 60 years and that's never been the case. LOWF has always and will always have trouble getting high profile recruits, no way will we ever get mostly 4 stars in basketball and definitely not football. I don't know what its going to take for you people to realize that we are destined to be the bottom feeder in the expanded ACC. Coach Manning and Coach Clawson won't even sniff the records of Dave Odom and Jim Grobe, two guys that have been villafied by the village idiots on this board. Blaming Ron Wellman is missing the fact that we are too small to compete consistently in big time college sports. I learned to accept that years ago, the sooner you morons accept the better off you'll be.