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California -- serious entertainment value

wait, so California decided to start paying for all the stuff they want?

oh, the humanity!
 
"Unions also ramped up their turnout machine to kill a ballot initiative that would have barred unions from automatically withholding money from worker paychecks for political spending."

Seperate from Union dues? ugh
 
"Unions also ramped up their turnout machine to kill a ballot initiative that would have barred unions from automatically withholding money from worker paychecks for political spending."

Seperate from Union dues? ugh

I worked to defeat that initiative for the past month.

The WSJ is lying about it. Basically Karl Rove got a guy named Charles Munger to put up $36,000,000 alone to kill unions. They lied saying unions could take money from your paycheck without your approval.

It didn't stop unlimited donations from bosses of companies.

mydeac doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
 
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I worked to defeat that initiative for the past month.

The WSJ is lying about it. Basically Karl Rove got a guy named Charles Munger to put up $36,000,000 alone to kill unions. They lied saying unions could take money from your paycheck without your approval.

It didn't stop unlimited donations from bosses of companies.

mydeac doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

sorry man, all I did was take a direct quote from the article.
 
No problem, that's the issue with believing anything any publication associated with Murdoch or Ailes. Romney was their perfect candidate. The truth is about as available as a black KKK Grand Wizard is.

Prop 32 got smacked for the third time in about fourteen years.
 
I worked to defeat that initiative for the past month.

The WSJ is lying about it. Basically Karl Rove got a guy named Charles Munger to put up $36,000,000 alone to kill unions. They lied saying unions could take money from your paycheck without your approval.

It didn't stop unlimited donations from bosses of companies.

mydeac doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

Son of Warren Buffett's right hand man
 
California and Illinois are in a death spiral to see who can hit the bottom first. Union-sanctioned Democratic government at its finest!
 
California and Illinois are in a death spiral to see who can hit the bottom first. Union-sanctioned Democratic government at its finest!

fuck yeah. fuck yeah. you go get em, punchy!
 
California and Illinois are in a death spiral to see who can hit the bottom first. Union-sanctioned Democratic government at its finest!

First of all you have no clue what you are talking about.

Under your world, it would be OK for Munger to give $36M or $36B if he wanted to do so, but it should be illegal for workers to choose to give $36 for the same purpose.

Yep that's fair.
 
First of all you have no clue what you are talking about.

Under your world, it would be OK for Munger to give $36M or $36B if he wanted to do so, but it should be illegal for workers to choose to give $36 for the same purpose.

Yep that's fair.

So you're saying it's voluntary for the workers? The article didn't make it sound that way.
 
The article is a lie. The law is you must sign to have money taken of your check and at any time you tell them to stop.

The purpose of this proposition was to start to kill all labor unions' ability to do anything in politics while not stopping millionaires and billionaires from spending unlimited amounts of money with no rules.
 
CA is already losing a large number of people per year, so it will be interesting to see if this tax increase, and the corresponding super majority in both houses which will enable dem legislators to do whatever the heck they want, will affect this flight even more.
 
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