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Covid-19 - Treatments & Vaccines

Deaconblue said:
The Advisory Committee is composed of experts from around the country. They have day jobs. Like Dean, Chicago Medical School. The roster is here:

https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/vaccines-and-related-biological-products-advisory-committee/roster-vaccines-and-related-biological-products-advisory-committee

The meeting to discuss the Pfizer vaccine held on Dec 10 was announced Nov 20. Three weeks are needed to review and digest the mountain of material in the application.
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Impressive. That said... If the answer is there is a lot of information to review then that’s one thing but there is nothing in the day job of Dean of UChicago med school is even close to as important as this. I mean I am sure that is recognized and that the delay isn’t just about syncing calendars up.
 
WFU Lurker said:
Impressive. That said... If the answer is there is a lot of information to review then that’s one thing but there is nothing in the day job of Dean of UChicago med school is even close to as important as this. I mean I am sure that is recognized and that the delay isn’t just about syncing calendars up.
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The doodle poll said Feb 26th was the first available date.
 
Pfizer has withdrawn their request for Emergency Use Authorization in India. Sounds like an economics decision. India approved two cheaper vaccines after the initial Pfizer application. And the India FDA was requiring Pfizer to do a trial in India that showed the vaccine worked in the people of India.
 
AstraZeneca-Oxford 75% effective against UK variant.
 
It’s crazy town, like do you know how many diseases we have tried to eliminate globally and our success rate is a grand total of 1. We’ve been trying to eliminate Polio for over 60 years and no go, hell it took 25 years in the US alone.

If the coronavirus vaccines result in zero deaths and minimal hospitalizations you have basically returned the pandemic coronavirus to a normal worldwide circulating coronavirus that has been around for decades. You would actually have an infection that is better than the flu. Hell if you got the coronavirus down to flu numbers it would be good enough, but instead we have vaccines that result it numbers exponentially better than the flu.
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
Someone that works with the media really needs to blast out what efficacy means and stop relying on it and instead rely on the morbidity/mortality numbers. Especially true with the variant fear porn.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Louis Gossett Jr again.
 
WRS said:
AstraZeneca-Oxford 75% effective against UK variant.
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Help me out here...what does 75% effective mean? 75% reduction in severity? 75% reduction in the chances of catching the disease? 75% of those vaccinated are immune? etc.?
 
WFU71 said:
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Louis Gossett Jr again.
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Second. I’ve been very on the conservative side on this whole thing but people gotta chill on the variant mess. Look at NC data- cases are going down but hospitalizations are going way down. JNJ vaccine will help a ton too. I’m pretty confident we’ll cautiously be back to “normal life” by summer. Mass travel, sporting events may take longer but day to day will start to happen this spring
 
birdman said:
Help me out here...what does 75% effective mean? 75% reduction in severity? 75% reduction in the chances of catching the disease? 75% of those vaccinated are immune? etc.?
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The AstraZeneca and Oxford University vaccine has been found to be 76% effective at preventing symptomatic infection for three months after a single dose, and the efficacy rate rose with a longer interval between the first and second doses.
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not mentioned in that article, but other studies have noted that most vaccines are damn near 100% effective at preventing serious complications from the disease
 
I've had a number of physicians say the same thing to me. Once complete, the COVID vaccine ASSURES you that the virus will not kill you. No more, no less.
Good enough for me; next shot (Moderna) scheduled for 2/25.
 
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thatguy2016 said:
not mentioned in that article, but other studies have noted that most vaccines are damn near 100% effective at preventing serious complications from the disease
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Yeah so basically 75% don’t get ANY symptoms and the ones who do get sick are much less severe cases right? That’s how I’ve been thinking about it but I’m also totally a novice at interpreting. Just thought it was reassuring that the AZ option was still highly effective against one of the new variants.
 
DeacsPop said:
I've had a number of physicians say the same thing to me. Once complete, the COVID vaccine ASSURES you that the virus will not kill you. No more, no less.
Good enough for me; next shot (Moderna) scheduled for 2/25.
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Congrats, stay safe until you get that next jab!
 
The problem that is real is the selective pressure we put on the virus as more people are infected/vaccinated. That’s why speed matters in preventing infections as well as vaccinating.
 
Louis Gossett Jr said:
It’s crazy town, like do you know how many diseases we have tried to eliminate globally and our success rate is a grand total of 1. We’ve been trying to eliminate Polio for over 60 years and no go, hell it took 25 years in the US alone.

If the coronavirus vaccines result in zero deaths and minimal hospitalizations you have basically returned the pandemic coronavirus to a normal worldwide circulating coronavirus that has been around for decades. You would actually have an infection that is better than the flu. Hell if you got the coronavirus down to flu numbers it would be good enough, but instead we have vaccines that result it numbers exponentially better than the flu.
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Yeah but we know that zero deaths is not the reasonable goal here. Something on the order.of magnitude of annual flu deaths is going to be a huge win.

Once we get to a pretty low death rate in the next few months the focus needs to be educating people that avoiding death is the goal, not avoiding the virus in totality. At that point the protective measures should logically be pulled back
 
Nationally, the pace has accelerated - 9.9 million doses administered over the past 7 days per CDC, or 1.4 million per day

pickup has been with 2nd doses

still on pace to have roughly 51 million with a 1st dose by 2/28; now looking like 23 million or so fully vaccinated by then
 
Hospitals will probably code flu deaths as Covid deaths to get more money.
 
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CDC is expanding its reporting and now tracks vaccinations by demographics here

Nationally, we've given roughly 30% of seniors 65+ a first dose, with 5% of seniors having received 2 doses
 
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