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Covid-19 - Treatments & Vaccines

70% feels like a pipe dream with a good bit of the GOP taking an anti-vax stance.
 
WFFaithful said:
Moscow Mitch just can't figure out why more people don't want a vaccine.
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Are you serious? He said that? That asshole. You know the plan is to fall short of 70% and then blame Biden for continued deaths because of people they discouraged to take the vaccine.
 
This is linked in the story and quite revealing.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/politics/electoral-map-vaccine-map-covid-19/index.html


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“So, for example, Biden won 66% of the vote in Vermont in 2020. That same number -- 66% -- of Vermonters are now fully vaccinated against Covid-19. In Minnesota, Biden won with 52% of the vote. And, yup, you guessed it, 52% of the population has been fully vaccinated. In New Mexico, Biden took 54% of the vote in 2020; as of now, 55% of New Mexicans are vaccinated against the coronavirus.

The flip side is also true. In Idaho, Trump won 64% of the vote. Just 36% of the state is fully vaccinated. Trump won 65% in Oklahoma; less than 4 in 10 (39%) residents of the state are fully vaccinated.”
 
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Do you think R's will lose the next election by the number of R's dying for not being vaccinated? smh. They are literally killing their own constituency.
 
awaken said:
Do you think R's will lose the next election by the number of R's dying for not being vaccinated? smh. They are literally killing their own constituency.
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This didn't start with COVID.





 
And the GOP's war on science (and education) continues unabated. From the Nashville Tennessean.

 
Yep


Opinion: GOP anti-vaxxers are sacrificing citizens’ lives for political gain


Here is perhaps the most important medical and political fact of our time: 99.5 percent of all covid-19-related deaths in the United States occur among unvaccinated people; 0.5 percent of covid deaths occur among vaccinated people. If you tell people not to be vaccinated, you add to the former category.

In this light, the recent outbreak of applause at the Conservative Political Action Conference for the United States’ failure to meet its vaccination target was macabre. Here were political activists — many of whom would call themselves “pro-life” — cheering for the advance of death. How did we get to such a strange, desperate place?

I don’t want to discount the possibility that some people are just badly misinformed. They think the vaccines come with itsy-bitsy tracking chips, or make you magnetic, or render you infertile — all of which are pure rubbish. Ignorance is a form of moral mitigation, but it is still, well, ignorance.

There are also some who oppose vaccination out of a tragically misapplied libertarianism. They somehow think the defense of freedom requires the rejection of sound medical advice from the government. They seek a rarefied form of liberation — liberation from rational rules, from prudent precautions, from scientific reality and from moral responsibility for their neighbors’ well-being. This is the degraded version of a proud tradition: Live free and let someone else die.

But others in conservative media and elected office must know precisely what they’re doing. They’re rational enough to recognize the timeline the rest of us inhabit, on which we desperately needed miraculous vaccines, miraculously got them and expeditiously distributed them to the willing.

In the case of Fox News celebrities in particular, they must know that discouraging vaccination — by exaggerating risks, highlighting unproven alternative therapies and normalizing anti-vaccine voices — will result in additional, unnecessary deaths. This is hard to get my head around. If someone were to pay me as a columnist to argue that cigarette smoking is healthy for children, or to encourage teenagers to take naps on railroad tracks after underage drinking, I don’t think I could make an ethical case for accepting the deal. Should it matter if I belonged to a news network where producing child smokers and trisected teens were institutional policies? Or if one-half of a major political party endorsed such goals? I don’t see why.

Fox News’s conservative anti-vaxxers gain advantages — in viewers and influence — by feeding conspiratorial fears that can kill their viewers. Standing outside politics for a moment, is this really the sum of their ambitions? Is this a reason to get out of bed in the morning? How does someone look in the mirror and say: Today, I will purposely misinform people in ways that increase their risk of hospitalization and death?

But the largest betrayal comes from Republican politicians who feed vaccine skepticism for their own benefit.

It is my predisposition to sympathize with the difficult work of legislators. They are often forced to weigh competing goods in matters of grave consequence. They are sometimes forced to decide whether they will support or oppose putting our armed forces at risk.

This case, however, is very different. No one has forced Sens. Rand Paul (Ky.), Ron Johnson (Wis.), or Ted Cruz (Tex.), Reps. Jim Jordan (Ohio) or Madison Cawthorn (N.C.), or many of their Republican peers to encourage vaccine skepticism, or to slander vaccine promotion as oppression, or to make selfish, destructive health decisions into a new civic rights cause. Yet they have. They are not proposing a realistic, alternative way to defeat a pandemic. They are undermining the only way to defeat a pandemic, because it will endear them to Trump stalwarts.

This is not just the sacrifice of conscience for political reasons. It is the sacrifice of citizens.

The health education provided by Republican officials to their supporters has been tragically effective. According to a recent Post-ABC News poll, 86 percent of Democrats have received at least one vaccine dose, while only 45 percent of Republicans have done so. This has put a vast number of additional Republicans in what West Virginia Gov. Jim Justice (R) calls the “death lottery.”

For years, I’ve been saying to myself that GOP politics can’t go lower. I am perpetually wrong. Americans should never forget this moment — or let guilty Republicans forget it. When Republican activists cheered for death at CPAC, they were cheering for disproportionately Republican deaths. When elected Republicans feed doubts about safe, effective vaccines, they are making it more physically dangerous to be a Republican in America.

And how do we know this? Because 99.5 percent of all covid-19-related deaths in the United States occur among unvaccinated people; 0.5 percent of covid deaths occur among vaccinated people. If you tell people not to be vaccinated, you add to the former category.
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could you please post some examples of all this Cuomo love that was seemingly going on here? you mention it a lot.

and can we please have a link on this FL is reporting more data than the Feds? the article in the tweet says FL is in line with the CDC.
 
It was only a matter of time before the mainstream GOP became anti-vaxers. It is now the party of deplorables fashioning themselves as the Christian Taliban.

It really sucks for the decent people of Tennessee though. There's millions of good Tennesseans who are going to be harmed by this. The deranged 30% of each "true" red state that now runs the state GOP is destroying everyone's lives. If you're a moderate conservative it is time defect. Become a Democrat in the short term and then free up Progressives like myself to create our own party once the middle-left alliance runs its course. You can't align yourself with these parasites any longer.
 
Delta hitting Nashville hard right now also...after 500k people came into downtown for 4th of July.

i have no sympathy for any of these fuckers
 
Colonel Angus said:
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But I saw on realpatriots.usa that this pandemic was just a milkwich invented by the socialist deep state to harm the greatest president ever.
 
Angus hates hypocrisy so I'm sure that just as he called out Cuomo for selling a book following a shitty COVID response, he will do the same for DeSantis

 
GOP kicking some serious ass here in the name of FREEDOM and LIBERTY. Go get 'em Angus, gotcha them on DeSantis again you mean boy!
 
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