Crazy Stat - 2 Point FG% - Wilbekin

[Pilchard]

Was looking at the stats on the WF/State matchup and noticed that WF is among the ACC's worst in 2 point shooting percentage (#12 48%) even though JC is among the best (JC is shooting 60% on his two point shots both in ACC and OOC games). So, how can WF's 2 point shooting % lag?

Well, Mitchell Wilbekin is shooting a dismal 24% (12 for 50) on 2 point shots on the season, but wait; it gets worse. In ACC games, Mitch is shooting 4 for 28 or 14%, yes 14% on 2 point shots in 12 ACC games. As a comparison, Wilbekin shot 42% on ACC 2 point shots last year, which is poor, but nothing like 14%. Got to believe that there is no player in the nation that plays 50% or more of his team's minutes (Wilbekin plays 64%) that has a conference shooting percentage of anything close to that pathetic. 14%. FWIW, Wilbekin isn't the only one with poor two point shooting stats in ACC play (Crawford is below 40% and Brandon is right at 40%), but 14% over 12 games from inside the arc is crazy.

 

[RJKarl]

I bet a lot of those 2s are his crazy layups that have no chance.

 

[CHillDeac]

Layups. Wilbekin, Childress and Crawford throw up some of the ugliest lay ups that I have ever seen.

 

[Deacsfan27]

Mitch should never drive the ball unless he is going 3 to 2, and even those have seemingly fallen off this year.

If he's not shooting threes well then Chill is a better option than Mitch at this point in time.

 

[06deacon]

Layups. Wilbekin, Childress and Crawford throw up some of the ugliest lay ups that I have ever seen.

Yup, if they don't get outright stuffed (wilbekin and chill), there are a lot of no chance hero ball attempts (Crawford).

 

[jaybone]

Not that this defends Wilby in entirety but I am pretty sure his last layupt miss against Notred Dame was on purpose - he drew Collins defender and he knew Collins was there to clean up his miss as long as he missed it badly - he did and Collins slammed it home.

 

[DCDeac]

I wonder if the fact that he's shoot over 90% from the line dictates taking it to the rack more often than he should. Also wonder what his effective percentage is if you count all fouls as shot attempts and add the points. He's taken 50 two pointers and shot 46 free throws on the season.

It's interesting because at this point he's basically the same size his brother was at Florida. He's not as athletic, yet his brother's game was pull up 3's and pull up 2's. He knew not to take it into the paint unless he had to, yet Mitch continues to try it. He should be quick enough to have some go-to moves where he starts to drive someone then takes the quick jumper as they try to recover.

 

[tigerswood]

Meanwhile, DickWash can't see the floor.

 

[SC DEAC]

Wilbekin is a strange player. We all agree that 14% shooting on 2's in acc play sucks. But overall, he shoots over 40% from 3's, 90% from the free throw line, and has a 4 to 1 turnover/assist ratio. All 3 of those stats are fantastic and goes to show you that stats aren't everything.

 

[ilovecarpet]

It is a crazy state. But offensive efficiency isn't this team's problem. It's the defense.

 

[Lohengrin]

I wonder if the fact that he's shoot over 90% from the line dictates taking it to the rack more often than he should. Also wonder what his effective percentage is if you count all fouls as shot attempts and add the points. He's taken 50 two pointers and shot 46 free throws on the season.

It's interesting because at this point he's basically the same size his brother was at Florida. He's not as athletic, yet his brother's game was pull up 3's and pull up 2's. He knew not to take it into the paint unless he had to, yet Mitch continues to try it. He should be quick enough to have some go-to moves where he starts to drive someone then takes the quick jumper as they try to recover.

It may be coaching. I really doubt he'd be given a green light if it weren't, with those stats.

 

[Bourrc9]

Obviously it's surprising (and an anomaly) that it's so low, but he loves pump faking, taking one dribble, and pulling up 1 foot inside the 3 point arc. Worst shot in basketball.

 

[Deacsfan27]

Wilbekin is a strange player. We all agree that 14% shooting on 2's in acc play sucks. But overall, he shoots over 40% from 3's, 90% from the free throw line, and has a 4 to 1 turnover/assist ratio. All 3 of those stats are fantastic and goes to show you that stats aren't everything.

I mean he has a 119.9 offensive rating on 13.1% usage. That is a pretty good picture of what he does, especially if you look at his effective FG% and his true shooting %.

 

[Bubble Boy]

I wonder if the fact that he's shoot over 90% from the line dictates taking it to the rack more often than he should. Also wonder what his effective percentage is if you count all fouls as shot attempts and add the points. He's taken 50 two pointers and shot 46 free throws on the season.

It's interesting because at this point he's basically the same size his brother was at Florida. He's not as athletic, yet his brother's game was pull up 3's and pull up 2's. He knew not to take it into the paint unless he had to, yet Mitch continues to try it. He should be quick enough to have some go-to moves where he starts to drive someone then takes the quick jumper as they try to recover.

Yeah, Wilbekin has an uncanny ability to not get fouled on drives to the basket. It's actually quite amazing how inefficient Wilbekin is when he penetrates, especially given that he really doesn't seem to have the ability to draw and dish. Once he goes down the paint, it's a given that he is going to chuck it up, with a 50% chance that it gets blocked and a 48% chance that it misses badly if it doesn't get blocked. At least Childress is learning how to draw contact and get to the line.

 

[Complacent Deac]

REALLY good basketball players spend the entire summer working on their 2 point game.

Threes - everybody jacks those up.

Dunks - everybody in AAU is doing that.

But 2 point shots...that's the type of thing Michael Jordan would do late in his career - work on his post up game instead of long distance shooting. Jordan, Rodney Rogers, Barkley --- get the work done in the gym.

 

[Pilchard]

Too be fair to Mitchell, his effective FG% which takes into account that 3s are worth more than 2s is 48% which is better than Brandon's (42%) and is close to Crawford's (50%). Also, agree that WF's primary problem is on D not on 0. Just had no idea that, for whatever reason, anyone getting regular PT for WF was struggling to that degree to make 2 point shots.

 

[liveanddiedeac]

I remember one layup he's made.

 

[DeacsATS]

That Wilbekin stat is even crazier when you figure that he probably hits a decent amount of his jumpers from just inside the 3 point line. So he's probably sub-10% on shots in the paint.*

*COMPLETELY ANECDOTAL, BUT I AM SURE IT IS TRUE

 

[deacsrus]

Only one stat matters.

 

[RChildress107]

REALLY good basketball players spend the entire summer working on their 2 point game.

Threes - everybody jacks those up.

Dunks - everybody in AAU is doing that.

But 2 point shots...that's the type of thing Michael Jordan would do late in his career - work on his post up game instead of long distance shooting. Jordan, Rodney Rogers, Barkley --- get the work done in the gym.

Um what? It's not 1996 anymore. Really good basketball players work on getting and making as many shots as possible from 2 feet in or 23 feet out. See Steph Curry (now that he's recovered from early season slump) and Joel Embiid. Players that have made their money on being deadly from 18 feet (CP3 and more recently Blake come to mind) are starting to add more 3 point shots to their game (Chris quietly became a 40+% volume 3P shooter).

Article on another thread talked about Collins weakness as a PnR player. That could have something to do with our layup woes. Our guards get met by the other team's bigs but don't have an outlet under the basket to give the ball up to. They could do a better job of just dribbling underneath and getting the ball back out, but Collins could get some easy buckets if he made himself more available on those drives.