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None? You don't think she was involved in the strategies of those campaigns?
Aside from bringing juice boxes?
None? You don't think she was involved in the strategies of those campaigns?
Aside from bringing juice boxes?
I find it doubtful that she didn't have some involvement. But whatever. I don't think Skins' narrative is correct. Her senate campaign and 2008 primary successes defeat that argument. I think it is also very likely that she wins the nomination. Can't say if she'll win the general, of course. But I think she is a formidable candidate.
I find it doubtful that she didn't have some involvement. But whatever. I don't think Skins' narrative is correct. Her senate campaign and 2008 primary successes defeat that argument. I think it is also very likely that she wins the nomination. Can't say if she'll win the general, of course. But I think she is a formidable candidate.
2008 primary successes??? She was almost as big a shoe in in 2008 as she is this year and she got smoked by an unknown one term Senator. It's easy to see President Obama now as the political Goliath that he has become but that was not what he was in the primary of his first run. That was App State beating Michigan.
It was absolutely a shitty performance. Both in accomplishment of expectations and in practice. Again, she was a shoe in and that sad joke of a "campaign" was a debacle.
I already think she's one of the worst people in the world.
The bottom line is that the race of the Democratic nomination is tantamount to the race for the presidency. If Hillary wins the nomination, she will be the next president. Unfortunately for the country, the Republican Party has gradually gotten itself into the position where it is not going to elect a president in a nationwide election in this country for a long, long time.....and maybe never again. Simply put, the Republican Party....as a result of its own self-destructive policies & attitudes....is dead at the national level.
Personally, I hope the Democratic nominee is not Hillary Clinton....but at this point I certainly wouldn't bet that it isn't.
I have long said that the Clintons were the closest thing you could get to the old mainstream GOP (which doesn't exist anymore) and still be in the Democratic Party.
That some would still think of the Clintons as "liberals" is a testament to how far that right-wing talk radio has been able to move the "liberal/conservative demarcation line" during the last 25 years or so. Though these people will not admit it...and still like to lazily refer to Reagan as the "ideal conservative" to which they think every candidate should aspire to be...Reagan would fail their own "conservative purity test" if they ever decided to hold him to the same standards that they do with candidates that they denounce today.
I think the party will turn on her before long. How long do they keep rewarding her for not packing her bags, taking her kid and leaving the White House like any self respecting woman would have? She saved what could have devastated the Democrats for decades. She isn't any more qualified then Obama.
The one thing the Pubs and the Dems should be able to agree on is we need to move on without a Bush or Clinton in the WH.
Almost every campaign is this side of John Huntsman. You're exaggerating. It was a bad campaign but not disastrous. Obama was the right candidate at the right time.