Leaving Wake without a degree isn't the end of the world he can always come back if basketball doesn't work out.
There is no way he’s coming back to finish a degree.
No. Way.
Leaving Wake without a degree isn't the end of the world he can always come back if basketball doesn't work out.
Obviously. Easing any rational person's concerns would include winning games and showing post-season success. After four years floundering around on the sidelines without a damn clue as to what he's doing, you would think that would somehow start to occur if only by chance. I predict we finish 13th next year.
There is no way he’s coming back to finish a degree.
No. Way.
No, you're exactly right: there's no way that our fanbase is not fucking miserable next year. Or ever.
Doral wrote on his twitter account that he'd be back to graduate. He also responded to a ton of random comments and said a lot of nice things about Winston-Salem and the fans.
I think he's making a mistake but damn some of these arguments are ridiculous. He's not lazy, he's not dumb, he's not a bad Deacon, he doesn't hate Manning or his teammates, etc. Some of his comments make it clear he knows he's taking a risk but believes in his abilities.
There's absolutely no guarantee Doral will make decent money next year playing basketball. He could easily go undrafted, get cut after a few weeks in the G-league, and find himself looking at 3rd tier foreign leagues that pay almost nothing. But if what he really wants to do is work his ass off playing basketball and nothing else, you don't see the G-League releasing many young 7 footers even if they're bad. So it'd be all basketball against to players and nothing else. At the same time, there churn players like crazy from a bunch of sources, and there are guys like Damian Jones there. Dude won an NBA championship with the Warriors as a rookie and can't get back. He's making bank as an affiliate but Doral isn't likely to get near that money, so he's a lot more likely to barely cover cost of living.
If that's what he's game for, more power to him. Bus rides, 500 person crowds, a carrousel of teammates, constant angst about getting waived... That's a tough road. Maybe he thinks it's unlikely he'll improve as much if he stays in school, so why not get started now instead of risking an injury. Who knows. He could be getting accurate advice and just wants to go anyway. If he starts tweeting about how great it'll be to hear his name called in the first round of the draft that's a different story...
I honestly think the majority of people that post here are good fans. And at some point it’s more than fair to demand results, especially when the people in charge of those results are being paid a lot of money to make it happen. If that makes me or anyone else a bad fan, so be it. Just stating an opinion. I think our B-Ball team is going to struggle mightily next year. I also think Manning has lost this team and has no idea what he’s doing on the sidelines in the heat of battle. Hope I’m wrong, though.
I honestly think the majority of people that post here are good fans. And at some point it’s more than fair to demand results, especially when the people in charge of those results are being paid a lot of money to make it happen. If that makes me or anyone else a bad fan, so be it. Just stating an opinion. I think our B-Ball team is going to struggle mightily next year. I also think Manning has lost this team and has no idea what he’s doing on the sidelines in the heat of battle. Hope I’m wrong, though.
There is nothing unfair, wrong, or miserable about this post. It makes sense, and I agree with much of what you've written here (though I'm not sure Manning has lost the team or that he's got no idea what he's doing). But you've got to admit that we are collectively miserable as a fanbase. People like Racer and knowell literally can't make a post without some doom and gloom pronouncement. You're much of the time the same way. It's miserable to read and it serves no purpose but to make everybody more miserable. I read the sports boards for news and I realize it's not always going to be good. I don't read it to listen to some moron noobs who know nothing about sports rant and rave about how terrible the world is as if they're watching some different tragedy unfold than the rest of us. We get it. We suck.
Like bkf before you (all), it wouldn't be difficult to write a simple bot to replace your entire contributions to our community.
You know who comes back for a degree? NBA millionaires. You know who doesn’t come back? European thousandaires. Wake is too expensive and too difficult without the basketball support system for most players to return unless they are extremely wealthy or unless the basketball program is very motivated to help hem succeed.
A guy like John Collins could/will get all the help he wants if he decides to come back for summer classes because he is going to be a major plus for the university. Doral getting his degree or not is meaningless to MSD at this point, so they aren’t going to bend over backwards to help, and highly doubt Doral is going to be willing to spend $70k+ to return and attempt to pass senior level courses with no basketball support staff.
Among other reasons, this is the primary point of sadness in his ‘poor data collection’ process (otherwise known as decision making). When he is a PE teacher in his mid 40’s he will regret not finishing his degree. It’s important that athletes use their sport to gain a step up in society. Instead Doral is going to be used by the game of basketball and tossed aside when his height is no longer enough to make up for his basketball shortcomings.
There is a major difference in this post (reasonable and legitimate take) and most of the negative posts that are made. It’s almost as though some posters take pleasure in causing as much pain to themselves as possible. Debbie Downer ain’t got nothing on them.
ahem.talk about consistency
lecturing people about being Debbie Downer while simultaneously lamenting the fact that Doral will be a PE teacher in his mid forties is not a good look
perhaps you need to look inward
In the same way [Redacted] broke DC, Manning is breaking wrangor.
Since we've beat the topic of whether or not this was a good decision to death, maybe it is time to move on to NBA Draft Projections to see where Doral may end up.
Ran through all of the updates I could find online and Doral still isn't listed in any mock drafts or on any Top 100 potential draftee lists.
Anyone find anything where Doral Moore shows up? Any updates on what he'll be up to over the next couple of months before the draft?
There is nothing unfair, wrong, or miserable about this post. It makes sense, and I agree with much of what you've written here (though I'm not sure Manning has lost the team or that he's got no idea what he's doing). But you've got to admit that we are collectively miserable as a fanbase. People like Racer and knowell literally can't make a post without some doom and gloom pronouncement. You're much of the time the same way. It's miserable to read and it serves no purpose but to make everybody more miserable. I read the sports boards for news and I realize it's not always going to be good. I don't read it to listen to some moron noobs who know nothing about sports rant and rave about how terrible the world is as if they're watching some different tragedy unfold than the rest of us. We get it. We suck.
Like bkf before you (all), it wouldn't be difficult to write a simple bot to replace your entire contributions to our community.
Since we've beat the topic of whether or not this was a good decision to death, maybe it is time to move on to NBA Draft Projections to see where Doral may end up.
Ran through all of the updates I could find online and Doral still isn't listed in any mock drafts or on any Top 100 potential draftee lists.
Anyone find anything where Doral Moore shows up? Any updates on what he'll be up to over the next couple of months before the draft?