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Family Separation at the Border: US citizens are now being detained

wakephan09 said:
I don't get it
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The word Ph was looking for was tinge, not twinge. A twinge refers to “a sudden, sharp pain.” A tinge is “a hint of.” To convey the meaning he was going for, Ph should have said “tinge of racism,” not “twinge.”
 
WakeBored said:
The word Ph was looking for was tinge, not twinge. A twinge refers to “a sudden, sharp pain.” A tinge is “a hint of.” To convey the meaning he was going for, Ph should have said “tinge of racism,” not “twinge.”
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warak said:
Christ, Republican jokes are so antiquated and void of humor.
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i guess it had to be said again...
 
WakeBored said:
The word Ph was looking for was tinge, not twinge. A twinge refers to “a sudden, sharp pain.” A tinge is “a hint of.” To convey the meaning he was going for, Ph should have said “tinge of racism,” not “twinge.”
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He could have meant a sudden sharp pain of racism. We will have to investigate his original intent and meaning.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...0ee61c-93b3-11eb-9af7-fd0822ae4398_story.html

Preliminary enforcement data for March confirms what border officials have been saying for weeks: The number of migrants crossing into the United States has skyrocketed to the highest levels in at least 15 years, and record numbers of teenagers and children arriving without parents have overwhelmed the government’s ability to care for them.

Though President Biden and his top officials have refused to acknowledge it is a crisis, the latest data shows the new administration under extraordinary strain.

U.S. agents took more than 171,000 migrants into custody last month, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection figures that contradict Biden’s claims that his administration is facing an influx no different from previous years. The rapid increase in border arrests and detentions — which has more than doubled since January — underscores the magnitude of the challenge facing an administration that has promised more-humane and more-welcoming immigration policies.


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Let's talk about how this ends. What impact do you all believe that surging immigration (the numbers "skyrocketed", in the words of the WashPo) is going to have on quality of lives of people who work on lower ends of the wage market scale? What's the plan? I don't care whether she goes the border or not (BFD), but I need to see what you all see on how we mitigate the inevitable results of this flood of people into the labor market. This is not a victimless crime, even if the posters here will never feel it.
 
"Will someone think of the poors!?!??!??!!?"

C'mon man. You could give a shit about low wage workers. That's just some xenophobic nonsense people like you use to rile up hateful people like yourself. You can't be more ridiculous than blaming some unaccompanied minors for ruining the labor market while letting modern robber barons like Bezos get off scot free. Go back to the Breitbart forums or wherever you typically spew this crap.
 
I thought the narrative was that poor people are to blame for their own misfortune. Is it immigrants now?
 
Well the immigrants are non-US poors, so I guess that makes them even more to blame than the US poors.
 
PhDeac said:
"Will someone think of the poors!?!??!??!!?"

C'mon man. You could give a shit about low wage workers. That's just some xenophobic nonsense people like you use to rile up hateful people like yourself. You can't be more ridiculous than blaming some unaccompanied minors for ruining the labor market while letting modern robber barons like Bezos get off scot free. Go back to the Breitbart forums or wherever you typically spew this crap.
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Sky rocketing numbers of illegal crossings at the border is a problem but not because of wage deflation. Study after study show that immigrants are stealing jobs from out of work Americans. If you’re truly concerned about wages, let’s talk about minimum wage increases.

Sky rocketing number of illegal crossings at the border is a problem because it’s a massive humanitarian crisis. People are suffering and we need to help them and solve the problem. Let’s consider why the migration is happening in the first place and deal with that rather then set putative deterrents at the border after they’ve already left their homes and traveled thousands of miles. If we want to stop the inflow we should end the war on drugs and devise policies to rapidly address and adapt to climate change.
 
birdman said:
Sky rocketing numbers of illegal crossings at the border is a problem but not because of wage deflation. Study after study show that immigrants are stealing jobs from out of work Americans. If you’re truly concerned about wages, let’s talk about minimum wage increases.

Sky rocketing number of illegal crossings at the border is a problem because it’s a massive humanitarian crisis. People are suffering and we need to help them and solve the problem. Let’s consider why the migration is happening in the first place and deal with that rather then set putative deterrents at the border after they’ve already left their homes and traveled thousands of miles. If we want to stop the inflow we should end the war on drugs and devise policies to rapidly address and adapt to climate change.
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Thank you for answering. I am sure people whose wages are impacted would disagree with your first statement. Let's call it more than one problem, fair? As to the wages problem, a decrease in supply in the labor force makes that existing force more valuable. This isn't a controversial statement. Minimum wages force jobs to move, and/or technology to bypass low-skilled labor. People not in an argument on the internet concede this: at some point market-unsupported labor costs go away. We can't solve the wage problems by ignoring border enforcement or by relying upon minimum wage. Even if you're right, then mass migration creates more competition for the jobs that aren't eliminated by the minimum wage.

As to point #2, you had me until the end. Who do you think is migrating because of climate change?
 
WokeandBroke said:
Thank you for answering. I am sure people whose wages are impacted would disagree with your first statement. Let's call it more than one problem, fair? As to the wages problem, a decrease in supply in the labor force makes that existing force more valuable. This isn't a controversial statement. Minimum wages force jobs to move, and/or technology to bypass low-skilled labor. People not in an argument on the internet concede this: at some point market-unsupported labor costs go away. We can't solve the wage problems by ignoring border enforcement or by relying upon minimum wage. Even if you're right, then mass migration creates more competition for the jobs that aren't eliminated by the minimum wage.

As to point #2, you had me until the end. Who do you think is migrating because of climate change?
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Central America is increasingly less wet and the rain that does fall is temporally more erratic:

https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/how-climate-crisis-affecting-central-america

People are abandoning their dried up farms and moving to cities to find work, where they are met by drug gangs and threatened with violence, so they flee to the relative safety of the north. The immigration crisis of the last 20 years is different than the 80's and 90's because it is driven far more by climate change than it is by economic opportunity and a wall on the border is not going to stop climate change.
 
birdman said:
Central America is increasingly less wet and the rain that does fall is temporally more erratic:

https://www.climaterealityproject.org/blog/how-climate-crisis-affecting-central-america

People are abandoning their dried up farms and moving to cities to find work, where they are met by drug gangs and threatened with violence, so they flee to the relative safety of the north. The immigration crisis of the last 20 years is different than the 80's and 90's because it is driven far more by climate change than it is by economic opportunity and a wall on the border is not going to stop climate change.
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Or illegal immigration, for that matter.

Jh- is the theory that all of these people being apprehended at the border are immediately being given a job at Amazon? If they are being apprehended, that means they do not get to enter the country unless and until they can prove they qualify (asylum, for example), correct?
 
DeaconSig said:
Or illegal immigration, for that matter.

Jh- is the theory that all of these people being apprehended at the border are immediately being given a job at Amazon? If they are being apprehended, that means they do not get to enter the country unless and until they can prove they qualify (asylum, for example), correct?
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People being apprehended aren't the problem. People not being apprehended are the problem.
 
I heard on NPR today there are Roma people migrating to Mexico then on to the US border.


Next cycle we’ll hear ‘bout “Gypsies, tramps and thieves”…!
 
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