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General Election Thread: Two Weeks Out

It is so over. I read that Dump wanted to change his mind the last minute on his VP selection as late as midnight last night.
What a buffoon. Even if not true he comes off as indecisive. This is so going to be no contest. ��
 
avalon said:
He tours as a DJ, though I'm guessing he's involved since he's a Philly guy. (In West Philadelphia, born and raised...)
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Saw him as the late night set after Pearl Jam at a festival. He's basically Girl Talk now.
 
Where's bkf to chime in when you need him?

This is is a coming shit show if there ever was one.
 
No Stacy Dash, Ted Nugent? Clint Eastwood is legit, at least, whenever he shows up. I honestly think that if I were Priebus and the best celebrity I could come up with was Antonio Sabato, Jr., I'd skip the whole celebrity part of the agenda.

How about the platforms? I don't jibe with the Republicans on many of their issues, like "sell off national parks and forests and chop chop chop" and whatever their vision of what a family should be, but they lost me big time with "Pornography has become a public health crisis." Never! You'll have to pry my pornography from my cold, dead, sticky hands.
 
General Election Thread: Clinton vs. Trump

Seems like a strange plank for a party clinging to the white male vote. Good luck recruiting.
 
cville deac said:
Not so sure, though you could certainly be correct. My biggest fear is Hillary picking a senator that could cost a seat either immediately or down the road. See Kaine, Tim, or Brown, Sherrod. If she chooses a senator, it should be Franken or Warren (who would only cost a seat for 3-6 months). Hillary doesn't have to think about picking someone who is Latino or African-American given her opponent is Trump. Now that Bernie is at least nominally on board, she doesn't need to go with a Franken or Warren. If Trump is trying to label himself the law and order candidate, nominating Stavridis would help negate that attempt and reinforce her assertion that she and Stavridis are better able to keep us and our allies safe. It would also be an attempt to entice establishment Pubs who don't like Trump to vote for her instead of Johnson. I can see the attraction from a strategic perspective.
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Pence opens up more VP possibilities for Hillary. Trump has problems with women and Latinos. Pence adds nothing there, but he does shore up Trump support among wary evangelicals (who were never going to vote for HRC, Johnson, or Stein).

Pence potentially helps in IN, MO, IA, PA, OH, and NC. Tom Vilsack would cancel out Pence everywhere in the Midwest except IN. Pence is a liability among moderates and centrist independents. Sadly Johnson isn't going to win any states, but hurts Hillary more than Trump among disaffected moderates. Johnson's liability is defense, so Stavridis could move moderates from Johnson to her. Would cost her some Bernie bros, but Stein votes aren't going to cost HRC any blue or purple states. Bob Gates would be an even more aggressive pick, but Hillary's too risk averse to go that far.

Trump makes Castro and Perez unnecessary. Same thing with Pence and Warren. Brown would be unnecessary panic response to Pence. Leave Kaine in the Senate and give Vilsack, Stravidis, and Hickenlooper long looks. Boring OWG picks, but Hillary doesn't need high risk/high reward to beat Trump/Pence. Franken would be a compromise pick, but Vilsack shores up the Midwest. Franken/Pence would be a VP debate beat down. Pence can't think on his feet to save his life.
 
I think it fits nicely for some denial. No wife that's not my sluts with big butts porn I'd never visit that site, I supported a platform to end pornography. Im sure the search history is just some virus I got from those email forwards I get from my AOL email address, or maybe it came from the cloud you never know what's in the cloud. Anyways platform support!
 
FuckmouthedRube said:
Pence opens up more VP possibilities for Hillary. Trump has problems with women and Latinos. Pence adds nothing there, but he does shore up Trump support among wary evangelicals (who were never going to vote for HRC, Johnson, or Stein).

Pence potentially helps in IN, MO, IA, PA, OH, and NC. Tom Vilsack would cancel out Pence everywhere in the Midwest except IN. Pence is a liability among moderates and centrist independents. Sadly Johnson isn't going to win any states, but hurts Hillary more than Trump among disaffected moderates. Johnson's liability is defense, so Stavridis could move moderates from Johnson to her. Would cost her some Bernie bros, but Stein votes aren't going to cost HRC any blue or purple states. Bob Gates would be an even more aggressive pick, but Hillary's too risk averse to go that far.

Trump makes Castro and Perez unnecessary. Same thing with Pence and Warren. Brown would be unnecessary panic response to Pence. Leave Kaine in the Senate and give Vilsack, Stravidis, and Hickenlooper long looks. Boring OWG picks, but Hillary doesn't need high risk/high reward to beat Trump/Pence. Franken would be a compromise pick, but Vilsack shores up the Midwest. Franken/Pence would be a VP debate beat down. Pence can't think on his feet to save his life.
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I would give Hillary money if she nominated Bob Gates. Amazing man.
 
More Sanders voters say they will choose 'other,' or not vote, than back Clinton
Supporters of rebel Democrat Sen. Bernie Sanders are not following his lead in backing Hillary Rodham Clinton, detouring away from the establishment Democrat to other candidates including Donald Trump.

A new Economist/YouGov poll showed that the email scandal, and FBI Director James Comey's charge that Clinton's behavior was "extremely careless," has led Sanders backers to abandon the former secretary of State.
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BobStackFan4Life said:
More Sanders voters say they will choose 'other,' or not vote, than back Clinton
Supporters of rebel Democrat Sen. Bernie Sanders are not following his lead in backing Hillary Rodham Clinton, detouring away from the establishment Democrat to other candidates including Donald Trump.

A new Economist/YouGov poll showed that the email scandal, and FBI Director James Comey's charge that Clinton's behavior was "extremely careless," has led Sanders backers to abandon the former secretary of State.
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Bob, Bob.....its early. Once Sanders supporters see even the remote possibility that Trump could win, they will pull the HRC lever. Face buddy, it is all over but the crying; I could beat Dump if I was on the ballot. Then again I could likely beat HRC as well.....ha.
 
DeacsPop said:
Bob, Bob.....its early. Once Sanders supporters see even the remote possibility that Trump could win, they will pull the HRC lever. Face buddy, it is all over but the crying; I could beat Dump if I was on the ballot. Then again I could likely beat HRC as well.....ha.
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Most who actually show up to vote will, especially older Sanders supporters. But I see a lot of the younger folks not showing up, and a few splitting their votes between Stein, Johnson and Trump. But of those who show up, Clinton will get the lion's share. To me, the key demographic is white women. Trump will clean up with white men, and Clinton will clean up with African Americans, Latinos and Asians. More than anything else, Trump is selling fear - in particular, fear of trade, globalization, foreigners and Muslims. The more things like cop shootings, terrorist events and gender identification continue to stay in the news, the better chance he'll have of persuading more white women to vote for him.
 
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