mothersodear
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Florida probably had half it’s team out with the ‘Rona.
Manning was very successful at times in his career. He may be successful later. None of that affects how he did here. Not that it is a one for one comparison, but Jim Caldwell was generally not seen as a successful coach at Wake, but his NFL career after Wake was certainly productive. Doesn't change his record at Wake.
I’m a colts fan. Caldwell sucked.
Have always loved Coach Caldwell and wonder what he could’ve accomplished at MSD with staff continuity and current facilities.
Jim was a great guy and organizer. He just couldn't recruit what was needed to win with his system. MHO....
Really. He had one bad year after Manning left and the Colts fired him. Then he led the Lions to the best stretch they’ve had in years.
Jim was a great guy and organizer. He just couldn't recruit what was needed to win with his system. MHO....
Agree. Caldwell was actually a pretty good recruiter. Grobe had a lot of success with guys like Calvin Pace, T Williams, Kellen Brantley, John Stone, etc. Gentleman Jim is a super nice guy and he connected with his players on a personal level in a way that Grobe didn’t, but lack of dedication to facilities is not why he didn’t succeed at Wake. We went entire games where it felt like we had three first downs the entire game. I can remember rooting for first downs like we won the Super Bowl. Caldwell is a good NFL coach. He was awful at Wake.Good coach and even better person. But his system was a key reason he didn't win more at Wake.
Attempting to implement a pro-style Penn State offense with the overall talent being recruited in the early and mid-90's was a recipe for disaster.
Agree. Caldwell was actually a pretty good recruiter. Grobe had a lot of success with guys like Calvin Pace, T Williams, Kellen Brantley, John Stone, etc. Gentleman Jim is a super nice guy and he connected with his players on a personal level in a way that Grobe didn’t, but lack of dedication to facilities is not why he didn’t succeed at Wake. We went entire games where it felt like we had three first downs the entire game. I can remember rooting for first downs like we won the Super Bowl. Caldwell is a good NFL coach. He was awful at Wake.
I know some guys who played under Caldwell. They all say he tended to panic and abandon his game plan early. Also, he didn't stick to the "bigger, stronger" part of his promise. Strength and conditioning declined. I'm sure we all remember the App State game with all our guys cramping and puking on the field.
Really. He had one bad year after Manning left and the Colts fired him. Then he led the Lions to the best stretch they’ve had in years.
Sheehan's take that if we fired Turge last year we would risk becoming Wake might be his all time "Turge take"
We kept Turge and still became Wake, right down to having Danny ******** Manning as our head coach!
Maryland up on #17 Illinois at half and everyone here would have enjoyed halftime commentating how Terps are winning points in the paint! Don’t give up yet Danny!