scooter do you not have kids? if so, were you not at all present during the pregnancy?
pregnancy up through and after delivery is fucking terrifying
Which is one reason why treating abortion as a private women’s issue was a bad tactical move that allowed shitty men with no clue to dominate public discourse. These conversations would be much different if scooter was regularly hearing women’s stories about their abortions instead of getting a steady diet of “right to life” discourse. Shitty men can demonize women as killing babies for convenient instead of listening to their stories.
Also if the only “fetal rights” they want is forcing women into labor, it’s not really about fetal rights.
Maybe we should give women the same rights as landlords and fetuses the same rights as tenants.
Ugggh, it can take forever to evict an unwanted tenant. Might need another analogy here.
Interesting story because moving forward your daughter in certain states is a criminal and could be prosecuted for felony murder.
The extent to which you and others here demonize those that have differing opinions is disheartening - and why the country is so polarized. Do you really think I don't realize many of these stories are heartbreaking? I am curious as to what you think I would hear that would make the conversation so different.
There are plenty of "shitty men" in power and making decisions for us all - on both sides of the aisle. But, having a different opinion from you about when a fetus is a baby worth protecting - does not make them all "shitty men".
I have heard this said before but I would like to see the statute that says that - have you seen one?
I wouldn't put it past some people to claim that but making it illegal to have a procedure after a miscarriage is nonsensical - the baby is no longer alive - there is no life to protect.
Yeah, but a lot of evictions can go on for months, especially if the judge is sympathetic to the tenant. And we just came through a period where it was basically impossible to evict a tenant for 18 months due to Covid, regardless of what they were doing.
Most/many miscarriages don’t fully clear on their own and if left untreated will result in necrotic tissue prone to infection just festering in the uterus. It can lead to sepsis and death of the landlord if not evicted, so, Doctors use abortion procedures to clear the tissue and make sure it does not cause problems. Those procedures are now illegal in 23 states regardless of the reason. It’s possible your daughter had a clean and complete miscarriage, but more than likely it involved some medical intervention that is now ilegal.
Also, women who were pregnant and then are no longer pregnant will definitely be investigated. No doubt.
Yes, I understand all that. But, any statute outlawing or limiting abortion procedures that doesn't make an exception for when the fetus being protected is no longer alive, is an objectively stupid statute - so I would really like to understand whether 23 states are REALLY that stupid.
Yes, I understand all that. But, any statute outlawing or limiting abortion procedures that doesn't make an exception for when the fetus being protected is no longer alive, is an objectively stupid statute - so I would really like to understand whether 23 states are REALLY that stupid.
Yes, I understand all that. But, any statute outlawing or limiting abortion procedures that doesn't make an exception for when the fetus being protected is no longer alive, is an objectively stupid statute - so I would really like to understand whether 23 states are REALLY that stupid.
Shitty men are playing a political game to get people who genuinely care like you to believe you have a moral high ground that only Republicans can defend.
You’ve been fooled if you think men who aren’t advocating for better affordable prenatal health care actually care about when a fetus is a baby worth protecting.