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Search Firm assistance?

TUA01576 said:
How the hell do you get a job doing that? Seems like a sweet gig.
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I'm always more interested in wondering what kind of AD is so useless that he needs to employ a search firm. Isn't hiring coaches for the two revenue sports one of the most, if not the most, important tasks within an AD's job description? It is like a truck driver hiring someone to drive his truck for him. What good is an AD who can't hire his own coaches? Merely placing the call should cause immediate termination.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I'm always more interested in wondering what kind of AD is so useless that he needs to employ a search firm. Isn't hiring coaches for the two revenue sports one of the most, if not the most, important tasks within an AD's job description? It is like a truck driver hiring someone to drive his truck for him. What good is an AD who can't hire his own coaches? Merely placing the call should cause immediate termination.
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Well, our AD didn't use a search firm when he hired Bzzz, so something needed to change based on how that turned out.
 
Not at all, a third party can really keep things from getting off track and keep the lines of communications positive and not emotional.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I'm always more interested in wondering what kind of AD is so useless that he needs to employ a search firm. Isn't hiring coaches for the two revenue sports one of the most, if not the most, important tasks within an AD's job description? It is like a truck driver hiring someone to drive his truck for him. What good is an AD who can't hire his own coaches? Merely placing the call should cause immediate termination.
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Maybe if he didn't call someone for help it would have caused immediate termination. Not likely, but maybe he was encouraged to do this so we did not end up with [Redacted] 2.0.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
I'm always more interested in wondering what kind of AD is so useless that he needs to employ a search firm. Isn't hiring coaches for the two revenue sports one of the most, if not the most, important tasks within an AD's job description? It is like a truck driver hiring someone to drive his truck for him. What good is an AD who can't hire his own coaches? Merely placing the call should cause immediate termination.
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My wife worked for one of the top executive search firms for a while. Hated the job but handled some cool searches (including one high-profile sports position).

Search firms' value lies primarily in their network of contacts they use to vet potential candidates, going past references and obvious contacts to try to dig for any dirt (e.g., those guys shilling for [Redacted] are full of shit--that guy throws his players under the bus, can't coach, etc.). People are willing to talk to the top search firms because they want to be considered for future jobs. Most industries are small worlds, and if you find the right person, you can often flag problems with candidates who look good on the surface.
 
ogb&c said:
My wife worked for one of the top executive search firms for a while. Hated the job but handled some cool searches (including one high-profile sports position).

Search firms' value lies primarily in their network of contacts they use to vet potential candidates, going past references and obvious contacts to try to dig for any dirt (e.g., those guys shilling for [Redacted] are full of shit--that guy throws his players under the bus, can't coach, etc.). People are willing to talk to the top search firms because they want to be considered for future jobs. Most industries are small worlds, and if you find the right person, you can often flag problems with candidates who look good on the surface.
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Why didn't she like the job?
 
deaclite said:
Why didn't she like the job?
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Wasn't a good personality fit for her for various reasons. It's a very demanding, client service-focused industry, with a handful of powerful partners who bring in all the business but can be difficult to work for (somewhat similar to big law firms, investment banks, etc).
 
ogb&c said:
My wife worked for one of the top executive search firms for a while. Hated the job but handled some cool searches (including one high-profile sports position).

Search firms' value lies primarily in their network of contacts they use to vet potential candidates, going past references and obvious contacts to try to dig for any dirt (e.g., those guys shilling for [Redacted] are full of shit--that guy throws his players under the bus, can't coach, etc.). People are willing to talk to the top search firms because they want to be considered for future jobs. Most industries are small worlds, and if you find the right person, you can often flag problems with candidates who look good on the surface.
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I get what they do, but all of those things are things that a major-conference AD should be able to do himself. That is a major reason for him having that job.
 
2&2, be thankful. We did a national search instead of an Ohio search.
 
PhDeac said:
2&2, be thankful. We did a national search instead of an Ohio search.
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Right, and most major schools rely on search firms in one way or another. They might use one if they're in the vetting stage of the search and don't want to wade through 25 candidates to find a few to bring in to interview. They also might even use a search firm before the current coach is fired, just so they know in advance who might be interested without letting anyone know that a change is planned. If it wasn't common for schools to do this, then firms like the one Wellman used wouldn't exist.
 
I thought Wellman said they wouldn't be using a search firm at his press conference where Dan asked him some pointed questions.
 
deaclite said:
I thought Wellman said they wouldn't be using a search firm at his press conference where Dan asked him some pointed questions.
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He also said [Redacted] resigned and did everything they asked him to do.
 
Apparently Wellman can lie as much as he wants without any accountability. From the school, and from the press.

Dan may ask a question or two, but he needs to quit being afraid and be a real journalist. Dan is a great guy, but just like Wellman, his legacy is also at stake. He needs to get some backbone and point out the laundry list of lies.
 
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