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Talking About Hell Can Be A Hate Crime in the UK

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This is happening in a UK with a "Conservative" prime minister.

http://secularright.org/SR/wordpress/fire-brimstone-free-speech-and-english-law/

A baptist church was at the centre of a police probe after a sign which suggested non-Christians would ‘burn in hell’ was investigated as a ‘hate incident’. The offending sign at Attleborough Baptist Church in Norfolk, pictured burning flames below words which read: ‘If you think there is no God you better be right!!’.

Now the church has been forced to remove the sign after a passer-by complained to police that it could ‘not be further’ from the Christian phrase, love thy neighbour. Robert Gladwin, 20, said: ‘It is my basic understanding that Christianity is inclusive and loving in nature. ‘The message being displayed outside of the church could not be further from the often uttered phrase ‘love thy neighbour’.’

Mr Gladwin said he was ‘astounded’ when he spotted the poster by chance as he was walking home. He said: ‘I was just astounded really. We live in the 21st century and they have put that message – that non-Christians will burn in hell – up to try and scare people into joining their mentality.’

The strongly-worded sign – which was put up next to a notice board which promises that visitors ‘can always be sure of a very warm welcome’ – was taken down by Pastor John Rose, 69, after police launched an investigation into the complaint.

Mr Rose said he ‘regretted’ how the poster could have been interpreted. He said: ‘Attleborough Baptist Church offers a variety of ways in which people are able to engage with the Christian message…Jesus encourages us to love God and to love our neighbour and we therefore regret that the poster has been seen as inciting hatred.

The Eastern Daily Press has more:

A spokesperson for the police said: “Norfolk Constabulary received a report regarding a poster outside a church in Attleborough which was deemed offensive by the complainant.

“National guidance required us to investigate the circumstances and the matter has been recorded as a hate incident. Having spoken to the pastor of the church, it has been agreed the poster will be taken down.”
 
So there was an investigation, and the sign was taken down before it got anywhere? Is this really a story?

BTW, it is not "sinister" for the police to investigate based on one report. That's kind of their job.
 
So can they not say "bloody hell" anymore? That's one of the few British phrases that I know.
 
Robert Gladwin, 20, said: ‘It is my basic understanding that Christianity is inclusive and loving in nature. ‘The message being displayed outside of the church could not be further from the often uttered phrase ‘love thy neighbour’.’

Mr Gladwin is ignorant of Jesus' teachings. Jesus spoke/warned of hell A LOT in the NT. It is one of his most common topics. Also, if there is a hell, then one of the most loving things a neighbor could do is warn others about it.
 
Mr Gladwin is ignorant of Jesus' teachings. Jesus spoke/warned of hell A LOT in the NT. It is one of his most common topics. Also, if there is a hell, then one of the most loving things a neighbor could do is warn others about it.

Kind of. Depends what you mean by "hell." Jesus certainly didn't speak about hell in the sense that we think of it today. Hell (for the most part) was a literal place right outside of Jerusalem called gehenna.
 
Kind of. Depends what you mean by "hell." Jesus certainly didn't speak about hell in the sense that we think of it today. Hell (for the most part) was a literal place right outside of Jerusalem called gehenna.

Not necessarily. Gehenna provided the metaphor...just as the eye of the needle was a physical entry point where the pack animals had to be relieved of the material they were carrying in order to enter the city. The implication being "you can't take it with you" and a person bound by their possessions will have greater difficulty entering into spiritual communion with God.

Gehenna was a place of possessions...the detritus of a life of a accumulation. It was constantly burning and the maggots would not die (worm does not die). It provided the perfect physical analogy for Christ's view of a life consumed with wants and desires and the subsequent alienation of a life lived "in things" to quote Saul Bellow.
 
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