Shooshmoo
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And the DNC rigged the 2016 primary for a corporate shill. That didn't help. And they are doing again in 2020.
Lot of blame to go around.
And the DNC rigged the 2016 primary for a corporate shill. That didn't help. And they are doing again in 2020.
Lot of blame to go around.
Bernie didn't lose, y'all. 200,000 dead from COVID-19. The country is burning. Republicans are preparing to strip away our rights. Instead of being mad at the assholes in charge, you all are still salty about 2016. You all are still mad that Bernie didn't win while completely absolving him of the responsibility of losing. Twice.
none of that matters now. they're going to get their justice on the court. vote the assholes out.
After some thought on this over the weekend, i have pretty much concluded that the whole argument about whether it is hypocritical or not is beside the point. All politicians are hypocrites, of greater or larger degree. The bottom line is that in some alternative universe where Dems got the Senate in 2018 and impeached Trump and Pence and Pelosi was the president running for reelection against Don Jr. right now, Dems would absolutely no question be ramming through RBG's liberal replacement. The SCOTUS and appeals courts as currently structured are a to the victor go the spoils political tool. Pubs have understood this for a generation; some Dems may have understood it but wanted to pretend not to. The GOP is going to be completely ruthless in filling these seats whenever they can and if Dems want the courts to uphold their legislative priorities, they better learn to play the game better.
If we as a nation want the court to truly be a lofty nonpartisan neutral arbiter (which, given human nature, is probably an impossible goal), the whole system of how we get SCOTUS justices has got to be scrapped and re-done.
This is a good post. Dems should have gotten Ginsbug to retire in 2015. The GOP manufactured GW's first appointment with O'Connor's retirement and they manufacture both of Trumps appointments with a the Garland Fiasco and the Kennedy retirement. The same set of rules do apply to both teams, its just that Dems, don't seem to know what game they are playing.
This is a good post. Dems should have gotten Ginsbug to retire in 2015. The GOP manufactured GW's first appointment with O'Connor's retirement and they manufacture both of Trumps appointments with a the Garland Fiasco and the Kennedy retirement. The same set of rules do apply to both teams, its just that Dems, don't seem to know what game they are playing.
How did it come to be that Justice Ginsberg was maintaining the partisan balance of the court, when the majority of judges had been appointed by Republicans?
Taking Deacon923's post to its ultimate conclusion, when the Presidency and Senate are controlled by opposite parties, are we just to assume that no SCOTUS appointments can be made?
Before 2015. The GOP took the Senate.
Well, the Biden rule, that McConell specifically invoked, was about presidential election year Vacancies.
I said this four years ago and I'll say it again. I don't think we can just assume a GOP Senate would approve a Dem nomination regardless of the timing.
I said this four years ago and I'll say it again. I don't think we can just assume a GOP Senate would approve a Dem nomination regardless of the timing.
Even if the Dems take the Senate, will Manchin and Sinema allow us to make a counter move? To expand statehood or pack the court?
Taking Deacon923's post to its ultimate conclusion, when the Presidency and Senate are controlled by opposite parties, are we just to assume that no SCOTUS appointments can be made?