myDeaconmyhand
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I suppose you and the rest of the reasonable resistance have kicked in to the John Brennan gofundme. No thanks. You flag humping Dems can keep your martyrs.
Trump revokes Brennan’s security clearance
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You actually believe those theatrics. You deserve to be ruled by Republicans.
You don't understand much of anything. The "martyr" is the Constitution, free speech and allowing any POTUS be a mini-dictator. Brennan is a prop not a martyr.
But thanks, once again for showing us that dogmatic purity is more important to you than the country.
WFFaithful
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Committed - not commuted
Apologies - rational thought a struggle tonight
FIFY
myDeaconmyhand
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We're both ruled by Republicans, dummy, you're just getting baited into a slapfight every week while regular Americans tune out. It's a genius strategy.
ConnorEl
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Due process? Nah.
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Shooshmoo
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He does deserve it -- dubbing him Leftro from now on.
He has forfeited his right through his comments. Burr put his breach in the simplest terms. He either knows new information that he has subsequently leaked. That is cause for rescinding. If he has no new intelligence then his comments clash with his sworn testimony.
Logic dictates he is a liar. He certainly has before as when The NY Times called for Obama to fire him amid the 2014 agency revelations of spying on Senate Intelligence committee staffers.
As the Washington Post also called on Brennan to be fired — an Atlantic Monthly headline actually asked if “Brennan knows too much for Obama to fire him”
2014 from the Washington Post where “Democracy Dies in the Darkness of a Democrats Memory Hole” :
In March, at the Council on Foreign Relations, CIA Director John Brennan was asked by NBC’s Andrea Mitchell whether the CIA had illegally accessed Senate Intelligence Committee staff computers “to thwart an investigation by the committee into” the agency’s past interrogation techniques. The accusation had been made earlier that day by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who said the CIA had “violated the separation-of-powers principles embodied in the United States Constitution.” Brennan answered:
As far as the allegations of, you know, CIA hacking into, you know, Senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth. I mean, we wouldn’t do that. I mean, that’s — that’s just beyond the — you know, the scope of reason in terms of what we would do. {…}
And, you know, when the facts come out on this, I think a lot of people who are claiming that there has been this tremendous sort of spying and monitoring and hacking will be proved wrong.
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Logic dictates he is a liar. He certainly has before as when The NY Times called for Obama to fire him amid the 2014 agency revelations of spying on Senate Intelligence committee staffers.
As the Washington Post also called on Brennan to be fired — an Atlantic Monthly headline actually asked if “Brennan knows too much for Obama to fire him”
2014 from the Washington Post where “Democracy Dies in the Darkness of a Democrats Memory Hole” :
In March, at the Council on Foreign Relations, CIA Director John Brennan was asked by NBC’s Andrea Mitchell whether the CIA had illegally accessed Senate Intelligence Committee staff computers “to thwart an investigation by the committee into” the agency’s past interrogation techniques. The accusation had been made earlier that day by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), who said the CIA had “violated the separation-of-powers principles embodied in the United States Constitution.” Brennan answered:
As far as the allegations of, you know, CIA hacking into, you know, Senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth. I mean, we wouldn’t do that. I mean, that’s — that’s just beyond the — you know, the scope of reason in terms of what we would do. {…}
And, you know, when the facts come out on this, I think a lot of people who are claiming that there has been this tremendous sort of spying and monitoring and hacking will be proved wrong.
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Washington Post 2014 cont:
Now we know that the truth was far different. The Post’s Greg Miller reports:
CIA Director John O. Brennan has apologized to leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee after an agency investigation determined that its employees improperly searched computers used by committee staff to review classified files on interrogations of prisoners. {…}
A statement released by the CIA on Tuesday acknowledged that agency employees had searched areas of that computer network that were supposed to be accessible only to committee investigators. Agency employees were attempting to discover how congressional aides had obtained a secret CIA internal report on the interrogation program.
“Some employees acted in a manner inconsistent with the common understanding reached” between the CIA and lawmakers in 2009, when the committee investigation was launched, according to the agency statement, which cited a review by the CIA’s inspector general. The CIA statement was first reported by McClatchy.
That committee’s investigation is said to be sharply critical of the CIA, finding that it exaggerated the effectiveness of harsh interrogation measures and repeatedly misled members of Congress and the executive branch. The findings are expected to be released publicly within weeks.
After briefing committee leaders, Brennan “apologized to them for such actions by CIA officers as described in the [inspector general] report,” the agency statement said. Brennan also ordered the creation of an internal personnel board, led by former Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.), to review the agency employees’ conduct and determine “potential disciplinary measures.”
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Now we know that the truth was far different. The Post’s Greg Miller reports:
CIA Director John O. Brennan has apologized to leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee after an agency investigation determined that its employees improperly searched computers used by committee staff to review classified files on interrogations of prisoners. {…}
A statement released by the CIA on Tuesday acknowledged that agency employees had searched areas of that computer network that were supposed to be accessible only to committee investigators. Agency employees were attempting to discover how congressional aides had obtained a secret CIA internal report on the interrogation program.
“Some employees acted in a manner inconsistent with the common understanding reached” between the CIA and lawmakers in 2009, when the committee investigation was launched, according to the agency statement, which cited a review by the CIA’s inspector general. The CIA statement was first reported by McClatchy.
That committee’s investigation is said to be sharply critical of the CIA, finding that it exaggerated the effectiveness of harsh interrogation measures and repeatedly misled members of Congress and the executive branch. The findings are expected to be released publicly within weeks.
After briefing committee leaders, Brennan “apologized to them for such actions by CIA officers as described in the [inspector general] report,” the agency statement said. Brennan also ordered the creation of an internal personnel board, led by former Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.), to review the agency employees’ conduct and determine “potential disciplinary measures.”
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Wapo cont.:
An apology and an internal review board might suffice if this were Brennan or intelligence leaders’ first offense, but the track record is far from spotless. In 2011, Brennan claimed that dozens of U.S. drone strikes on overseas targets had not killed a single civilian. This remarkable success rate was not only disputed at the time by news reports — even supporters of the drone program called it “absurd” — but as the Bureau of Investigative Journalism and the New York Times both reported later, President Obama received reports from the very beginning of his presidency about drone strikes killing numerous civilians. As Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser at the time, Brennan would have received these reports as well, so either Brennan knew that his claim was a lie, or he is secretly deaf. Similarly, Brennan denied snooping on Senate computers six weeks after Feinstein first made the accusation to the CIA in private, which means either that he was lying, or he had ignored a serious charge against his agency for six weeks, then spouted off about it without any real knowledge — hardly the behavior expected of an agency director.
An apology and an internal review board might suffice if this were Brennan or intelligence leaders’ first offense, but the track record is far from spotless. In 2011, Brennan claimed that dozens of U.S. drone strikes on overseas targets had not killed a single civilian. This remarkable success rate was not only disputed at the time by news reports — even supporters of the drone program called it “absurd” — but as the Bureau of Investigative Journalism and the New York Times both reported later, President Obama received reports from the very beginning of his presidency about drone strikes killing numerous civilians. As Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser at the time, Brennan would have received these reports as well, so either Brennan knew that his claim was a lie, or he is secretly deaf. Similarly, Brennan denied snooping on Senate computers six weeks after Feinstein first made the accusation to the CIA in private, which means either that he was lying, or he had ignored a serious charge against his agency for six weeks, then spouted off about it without any real knowledge — hardly the behavior expected of an agency director.
ConnorEl
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Yep, sounds like he should be lynched without a trial.
myDeaconmyhand
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You cul-de-sac soccer dads get so touchy when someone critisizes your favorite soap opera.
ImTheCaptain
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wow. call the fucking burn ward
“lynched without a trial” ..hmmm. ok
But he earned the stripping of his security clearance and as the Executive determines it is on an “as needs to know” basis. See James Mattis and General Kelly.
Others who don’t respect The Presidents rightful place in this government deserve the same. He absolutely does not have to put up with it. General’s critical of Obama’s tactics faced dismissal. This guy is having his credentials yanked for violating protocol and positioning himself as either lying now or previously during his sworn Senate testimony.
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Nice job conflating actual insubordination and free speech. Hugo Chavez and Nicolas Maduro would agree with you.
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Important thread.