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USC AD Haden: Schools should 'prepare' for O'Bannon suit loss

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It's a good thing that UCLA gave O'Bannon a scholarship to play. Otherwise we'd never know who the fuck he is.
 
UCLA made many millions off of him. He couldn't even take a date out for dinner.

It's only fair that revenue sports players get a stipend.
 
Cause getting an education or national stage to show off his basketball skills isn't worth anything?
 
Wellman is already prepared. Keeping Buzz is nothing more than an effort to soften the blow when we have to drop basketball for financial reasons.
 
I tend to agree with O'Bannon's points in the lawsuit.


But just so we're all clear: this is going to destroy schools like Wake Forest, right? Not sure how we could ever keep up with the big boys in a post-O'Bannon world.
 
RJKarl said:
UCLA made many millions off of him. He couldn't even take a date out for dinner.

It's only fair that revenue sports players get a stipend.
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Wake would get absolutely destroyed in any system where we have to pay players.
 
Football is on its way to being its own beast - separate from the NCAA, run by the super conferences. I personally think there is a football bubble coming - not sure if it is pay-for-play, loss of traditional rivalries, head injury lawsuits, or what - but the deterioration of the NCAA is ultimately going to hurt all college sports particularly when football has a cooling off period. The NCAA is a fucked up entity with arbitrary rules and arbitrary implementation of the rules they have, but they are necessary in my opinion to keep college sports "collegiate." Once you turn the players into professionals in any sense, you simply have minor league teams, and no one is real interested in that.
 
TexasDeac10 said:
I tend to agree with O'Bannon's points in the lawsuit.


But just so we're all clear: this is going to destroy schools like Wake Forest, right? Not sure how we could ever keep up with the big boys in a post-O'Bannon world.
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We get the same TV money everybody else in the ACC does.
 
94Deac said:
It's a good thing that UCLA gave O'Bannon a scholarship to play. Otherwise we'd never know who the fuck he is.
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Of course O'Bannon and other scholarship athletes have benefitted greatly from a college athletics scholarship, that's why countless talented athletes continue to play in college. However, colleges, college administrators, coaches, conferences, the NCAA, and other third parties are compensated many times more than the athletes themselves when you consider just how much revenue college football and basketball generates.

Also 50% is pretty much a starting point in negotiations for O'Bannon- any proportion of revenue awarded to players will very likely be less than this.
 
Exactly.
 
Didn't Hatch say that WF would bail if pay for play was adopted?

Once players start to get paid, why wouldn't the next step be to pay the best players more?

Why should Andrew Luck (who did bring $millions to Stanford) get paid the same as the back-up long snapper, who is lucky to get a ship?

Also, why should a scrub on the men's basketball or football teams get paid while a star women's basketball player or men's wrestler at a school that makes money on those programs not get paid?

Unless all scholarship athletes get paid, not sure how to reconcile only paying male scholarship athletes with Title IX.

As long as the HS recruit understands that he is limited to a free education, room, board, and the benefits of being BMOC, not sure why schools are further obligated to pay the athletes. Does the athlete have to pay the school back if the program loses money?
 
Pilchard said:
Didn't Hatch say that WF would bail if pay for play was adopted?

Once players start to get paid, why wouldn't the next step be to pay the best players more?

Why should Andrew Luck (who did bring $millions to Stanford) get paid the same as the back-up long snapper, who is lucky to get a ship?

Also, why should a scrub on the men's basketball or football teams get paid while a star women's basketball player or men's wrestler at a school that makes money on those programs not get paid?

Unless all scholarship athletes get paid, not sure how to reconcile only paying male scholarship athletes with Title IX.

As long as the HS recruit understands that he is limited to a free education, room, board, and the benefits of being BMOC, not sure why schools are further obligated to pay the athletes. Does the athlete have to pay the school back if the program loses money?
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Is the scholarship included in this "pay"? Couldn't the NCAA (or the respective schools) just take half the tv money and use it to fund scholarships? They could then take the money currently being used to fund scholarships and put it towards something else.
 
What percentage of an AD's revenue is TV money which would put WF on equal footing vs. things that grow with size such as giving, sponsorship, ticket sales, etc.?
 
Why not a set monthly stipend for scholarship athletes? IF you get a full ride, you get X$. If you have a 50% scholarship, you get 1/2 X$.

Let's say a school has as many as 250 full scholarship athletes and pays $300/month for ten months. The total would be $750,000.

Wake has small football attendance (35,000/game) and bball attendance (9,000). If we raised ticket price by $2-3 we'd cover it.

The NCAA is floating in cash, they could subsidize the WSSUs.
 
Demonbeck said:
Is the scholarship included in this "pay"? Couldn't the NCAA (or the respective schools) just take half the tv money and use it to fund scholarships? They could then take the money currently being used to fund scholarships and put it towards something else.
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Now that would kill Wake.
 
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