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Vegas Shooting

DeacWatcher said:
No I have not but I figured if anywhere would have it, it would be a Vegas casino hotel. I guess I am incorrect on that.
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I was literally just staying at Mandalay Bay for 3 nights for a work event three weeks ago. No metal detector, nothing in terms of baggage search or anything (like pretty much every hotel). Wonder if something will be instituted? Or this is such a random lone wolf thing.

But pretty horrifying in general. Especially considering I was just right there.
 
LadyDeac03 said:
I was literally just staying at Mandalay Bay for 3 nights for a work event three weeks ago. No metal detector, nothing in terms of baggage search or anything (like pretty much every hotel). Wonder if something will be instituted? Or this is such a random lone wolf thing.

But pretty horrifying in general. Especially considering I was just right there.
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Not to minimize other major shootings like VT and the Pulse nightclub, but this one gets me a little more too. As a huge fan of Las Vegas (named my 1st dog Vegas), and a frequent music festival/concert goer (3 in the last 4 nights), this is just horrible. Can't imagine how horrifying it was to be there last night.
 
BiffTannen said:
Have you ever checked into a hotel that had a metal detector, anywhere in the world ?
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For what it's worth, any four or five star hotel in developing Asia has metal detectors and most have car searches before you can enter their driveway.
 
WFU03 said:
For what it's worth, any four or five star hotel in developing Asia has metal detectors and most have car searches before you can enter their driveway.
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Fair enough. I hate that American hotels might become like the Naypyidaw Radisson.
 
vadimivich said:
I think he had an AR-15 modified with bump fire stock/trigger (legal, but makes it so the gun "bumps" back and forth off your finger to fire basically full auto) and drum magazines. Probably some form of bipod for extended, stable.prone firing.

You can buy all that legally and easily. And you can fucking murder many, many people with it in a very short period of time.

But the "freedom" to own a gun outweighs the freedom to go to a concert or just walk on a public street and not be murdered.
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Never heard of this... have they said this or are you speculating based on the sound from the audio recordings we have heard?
 
Sounded like a bump to me as well but definitely could have been fully auto. It was 100% not a stock semi, just judging from the one video I listened to
 
i am not a firearms expert, but I have always been told that a knowledgeable person can buy or make the parts required to turn a semi-auto rifle into a full auto, or something close enough to full auto as to not make a difference (i.e. the bump firing). The solution is not to make doing so illegal. The solution is to make it much, much harder/impossible to get hold of the underlying weapon.
 
ISIL taking credit. Are they fricking kidding us? A 64 yo white guy, who lived in senior's park with a golf course and roomie/girlfriend named Marilou.

How much more white bread can you get?
 
Deacon923 said:
i am not a firearms expert, but I have always been told that a knowledgeable person can buy or make the parts required to turn a semi-auto rifle into a full auto, or something close enough to full auto as to not make a difference (i.e. the bump firing). The solution is not to make doing so illegal. The solution is to make it much, much harder/impossible to get hold of the underlying weapon.
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But in the interim, with so many of the underlying weapons already available, it definitely makes sense to make the modifications illegal as well.
 
BillBrasky said:
Probably. Although him being in a hotel means very little. Is every tall building near crowded pedestrian areas going to have this level of security?
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Like Every building in NYC?? I agree metal detectors are not going to solve a thing.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
But in the interim, with so many of the underlying weapons already available, it definitely makes sense to make the modifications illegal as well.
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i agree in principle, but it seems like a symbolic move. If your typical gun nut modifies his gun, the only people who will know about it are him and his fellow gun nuts who aren't going to go calling the ATF. If a mass shooter modifies his gun, by the time anybody finds out about it either (a) a lot of people are dead including the shooter, or (b) a lot of people are dead and the shooter gets some extra jail time for the weapons violation on top of his 87 back to back life terms. Moreover, it's the kind of law that I could see passing Congress so that they could say they did something about mass shootings without actually doing anything. Nonetheless, sure, in principle it should be illegal to manufacture or possess a fully automatic weapon. The potential for harm far, far exceeds the nebulous freedom rights of gun fetishists and the Founding Fathers would have been horrified at the scale of destruction they made possible with their crappy drafting of the 2d Amendment. There were some notable Revolutionary War battles that had casualty counts only a little higher than this event.
 
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58 dead, 500+ wounded

One person shouldn't be able to do this much carnage.
 
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