DeaconSig
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Expect a minimal contribution and be happy with anything more. He might pop. But he shouldn’t be expected to do so.
If Juke follows the year-by-year development plan of Hildreth I would be pretty happy with that.I'm thinking 10 minutes a game for Juke as Hildreth's backup and then hopefully develops into a starter as a sophomore.
Wasn't he top-50 ish? Only Mucius was in that range at some point of all those guys.Juke is ranked right around the same range as Parker, Keller, Hildreth, Carter Whitt, Mucius
Wasn't he top-50 ish? Only Mucius was in that range at some point of all those guys.
I am hoping he can definitely do more than 10 mins/game as a freshman.That is almost half of what Parker got this season.
I was assuming he would be better than Parker.
juke is just inside the top 100 from what I can tellWasn't he top-50 ish? Only Mucius was in that range at some point of all those guys.
I am hoping he can definitely do more than 10 mins/game as a freshman.That is almost half of what Parker got this season.
I was assuming he would be better than Parker.
He's 71st on Rivals. He was 40th in Sept. of 2022, and 37th last spring in an update about a week before he committed.juke is just inside the top 100 from what I can tell
Meh, I don't think anyone was saying that a 10 mpg developmental piece is Juke's freshman year ceiling, more so that it's a reasonable expectation. It's probably closer to his floor than ceiling, but it's probably not far off what the average outcome is going to be.I think he's better than No. 71 and think the idea that he can just be a 10 minutes/game player, semi-developmental piece for next year is setting the bar too low.
Yeah, poorly worded by me, didn't mean to imply that's what people are saying his ceiling is. I do think he can come in and be a double-digit scorer next season but that's also tied in to what happens in the portal.Meh, I don't think anyone was saying that a 10 mpg developmental piece is Juke's freshman year ceiling, more so that it's a reasonable expectation. It's probably closer to his floor than ceiling, but it's probably not far off what the average outcome is going to be.
If we don't land multiple meaningful pieces in the portal his mpg will be higher than that out of necessity, but that's a different conversation.
Whose wrath?! I'm calm, I'm really calm, I'M SO FUCKING CALM.At the risk of incurring Conner O'Neal's wrath, I would be okay with a Strickland-esque freshman year from Juke, with better shooting.
Trent averaged 12.2 mpg, 37.7 FG% (ouch), 78.8 FT%, 1.9 rpg, 0.6 apg, and 4.3 ppg. He finished 8th on the (very good) 2003 team in mpg, and 7th in ppg. Assuming we add a couple of solid, day-one contributors in the portal, I think that's fine.
Regardless, good to hear that you have a high opinion of Juke.Yeah, poorly worded by me, didn't mean to imply that's what people are saying his ceiling is. I do think he can come in and be a double-digit scorer next season but that's also tied in to what happens in the portal.
Whose wrath?! I'm calm, I'm really calm, I'M SO FUCKING CALM.
I think he's got a game that translates well with Wake's style. And I think he's got strong character and support, i.e. he won't be overwhelmed by the transition to college.
At the risk of incurring Conner O'Neal's wrath, I would be okay with a Strickland-esque freshman year from Juke, with better shooting.
Trent averaged 12.2 mpg, 37.7 FG% (ouch), 78.8 FT%, 1.9 rpg, 0.6 apg, and 4.3 ppg. He finished 8th on the (very good) 2003 team in mpg, and 7th in ppg. Assuming we add a couple of solid, day-one contributors in the portal, I think that's fine.
Yeah, looking back on it he was outside the top 5 as a freshman in MPG and PPG. Meanwhile Crawford led the team in minutes.I do not think Collins had the opportunity to be a top 5 player as a freshman. Understandable for such a loaded team that won one game in the last two months of the season.
He has an all conference name. so he has that going for him. Really could use a point guard and a big power forward with inside game. If we had a Tyree type player that would have made a big difference although I like all our guards, just don't have true point.He's 71st on Rivals. He was 40th in Sept. of 2022, and 37th last spring in an update about a week before he committed.
He dropped to 55th after the summer AAU circuit because he didn't shoot from the outside very well over the summer. And then was 71st on Signing Day.
As I've said before, I think recruiting rankings suck major ass. For a long list of reasons. I don't think he drops if he's committed to some of the other schools in his final list, like Tennessee or Miami.
I think he's better than No. 71 and think the idea that he can just be a 10 minutes/game player, semi-developmental piece for next year is setting the bar too low.Re