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Hypothetically lets say Wellman costs the ACC $157 million dollars, which will he have done more damage to, Wake Forest or the ACC?

The University of Maryland has filed a $157 million countersuit against the ACC, raising a new allegation that the conference tried to recruit "at least" two unnamed Big Ten universities after learning of Maryland's intent to leave the ACC and join the Big Ten on July 1.

According to documents obtained Tuesday from the Maryland attorney general's office, athletic officials from Wake Forest and Pittsburgh tried to recruit "at least" two Big Ten schools to the ACC.

According to the attorney general's office, the sum of the countersuit was derived from three times the exit fee, as damages are tripled in antitrust lawsuits.

The Maryland attorney general's office called that move "a competitive reaction" to Maryland's departure. While not necessarily illegal, their argument is that it was hypocritical of the ACC to try and impede Maryland's departure with a $52.3 million exit fee and then turn around and recruit schools from the very same conference Maryland is headed to.

According to a spokesperson from the attorney general's office, the sum of the countersuit was derived from three times the exit fee, as damages are tripled in antitrust lawsuits.

ACC officials had no further comment, other than to refer to commissioner John Swofford's original statements.

"We continue to extend our best wishes to the University of Maryland," Swofford said in November 2012. "However, there is the expectation that Maryland will fulfill its exit fee obligation."

Maryland has been tied up in a messy lawsuit with the ACC since that time, when the conference sued the school in an effort to enforce the ACC's increased exit fee. The ACC's initial lawsuit came after the conference voted to increase the exit penalty to three times its operating budget, which the appeals court calculated at nearly $52.3 million.

Maryland counter-sued last January, but a judge ruled that the decision should be stayed pending the outcome of the North Carolina case. Last summer, though, the ACC gained a small victory when a Maryland judge ruled that the ACC is not violating any antitrust laws by asking Maryland for its exit fee. In November a state Court of Appeals panel rejected Maryland's bid to dismiss the lawsuit. Monday's countersuit, which was filed in a North Carolina state court, was the latest move in the chess match between the two, but it includes many of the same points that have already been filed.

Maryland's main argument, as documented in the most recent countersuit, has been that the ACC "took steps designed to deny Maryland athletic, academic, and financial benefits that Maryland expected to derive from joining the Big Ten, and to penalize Maryland for its decision to leave the ACC, with the goal of impeding Maryland and deterring other members from leaving the conference." Maryland argues that the ACC "ignored and breached" its own constitution in its haste to "punish Maryland."

Maryland also has claimed that the ACC has withheld more than $16 million from the university so far, and that sum is also included in the countersuit. Maryland is also seeking punitive damages, an amount to be determined by the court.
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The Maryland attorney general's office called that move "a competitive reaction" to Maryland's departure. While not necessarily illegal, their argument is that it was hypocritical of the ACC to try and impede Maryland's departure with a $52.3 million exit fee and then turn around and recruit schools from the very same conference Maryland is headed to.

This is the basis of their claim?
 
Surely this thing has no merit.
 
As the ACC's defense, they should just hold up a graph of Wake's recruiting rankings over the past 10 years in football and basketball, and ask if the same guy leading that charge could be reasonably expected to recruit an entire university away from a power conference.
 
Would be nice to see Wellman having to participate in a deposition...
 
Would be nice to see Wellman having to participate in a deposition...

how much can we pay to slip the opposing legal team a list of questions re: Dino & Buzz to be answered under oath?????!?
 
Maryland can kiss my ass and I think the ACC should litigate to the supreme court if they have to in order to extract every penny of the exit fee. Their counterclaim is completely baseless and, if anything, unrelated to the issue at hand. The bylaws give the ACC the absolute right to withhold money otherwise due to MD to offset the exit fee - so that is no problem. We can go invite all the members of other conferences to join the ACC we want - how is that related to their exit fee obligations?
If they wanted to avoid the increased exit fee they should have exited before the increase was voted in and went into effect - they could have made that choice.
It gets old seeing people agree to contract terms and then litigating to try and avoid them. If you don't like them, don't agree to them - or negotiate better terms to begin with.

The ACC is in a bad spot vis a vis negotiating a settlement at a lower fee - that would set a bad precedent in the event schools leave in the future.
 
The Maryland attorney general's office called that move "a competitive reaction" to Maryland's departure. While not necessarily illegal, their argument is that it was hypocritical of the ACC to try and impede Maryland's departure with a $52.3 million exit fee and then turn around and recruit schools from the very same conference Maryland is headed to.

This is the basis of their claim?

Yeah, because it wouldn't make any sense to recruit another school when you have a vacancy...
 
If they wanted to avoid the increased exit fee they should have exited before the increase was voted in and went into effect - they could have made that choice.

They weren't invited prior to the increase vote. Thus there was no choice to make.

Otherwise, I agree with your remarks.
 
They weren't invited prior to the increase vote. Thus there was no choice to make.

Otherwise, I agree with your remarks.

Sure there was...they were free to remove themselves from the conference and go shopping on their own. There's nothing that forced them to wait on an invite before leaving. It's hilarious that they moved to the Big 10 because of an invite and then turn around and countersue the ACC inviting another school to take their place.
 
"Maryland's main argument, as documented in the most recent countersuit, has been that the ACC "took steps designed to deny Maryland athletic, academic, and financial benefits that Maryland expected to derive from joining the Big Ten, and to penalize Maryland for its decision to leave the ACC, with the goal of impeding Maryland and deterring other members from leaving the conference." Maryland argues that the ACC "ignored and breached" its own constitution in its haste to "punish Maryland."

Interesting. This is basically just their defense of the original breach of contract rolled up into countersuit form.
 
They weren't invited prior to the increase vote. Thus there was no choice to make.

Otherwise, I agree with your remarks.

My point was they could have withdrawn from the ACC - whether they had somewhere to go was not our problem...
 
"Maryland's main argument, as documented in the most recent countersuit, has been that the ACC "took steps designed to deny Maryland athletic, academic, and financial benefits that Maryland expected to derive from joining the Big Ten, and to penalize Maryland for its decision to leave the ACC, with the goal of impeding Maryland and deterring other members from leaving the conference." Maryland argues that the ACC "ignored and breached" its own constitution in its haste to "punish Maryland."

Interesting. This is basically just their defense of the original breach of contract rolled up into countersuit form.

Is there something in the ACC's constitution that prohibits us from inviting members of other conferences to join? I would think obviously not. If that is not what they are talking about, to what does the bolded language refer?
 
Yeah I have no idea. I thought the reference to us "ignoring and breaching" our own constitution was in reference to the liquidated damages actually being a punishment, but if that's the argument then it doesn't mean we ignored the constitution, it means that the form of the constitution was illegal under North Carolina law.

Maryland is basically suing the ACC for pursuing members while they pursued another conference while a member of the ACC. Ridiculous. Anything that ACC members did was almost certainly less tortious than anything Maryland did since they actually left the conference.
 
MD didn't have any objections when the ACC went out and got Boston College, Miami, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Notre Dame. Granted, it's not exactly the same but MD's arguments do appear hollow with their support of past expansion and their choice to move.

The ACC trying to replace MD with as good of a school possible (ex: PSU is a high value school) is not a grounds for a lawsuit.
 
The Maryland attorney general's office called that move "a competitive reaction" to Maryland's departure. While not necessarily illegal, their argument is that it was hypocritical of the ACC to try and impede Maryland's departure with a $52.3 million exit fee and then turn around and recruit schools from the very same conference Maryland is headed to.

This is the basis of their claim?


Seriously? Do they want the court to find the ACC guilty of hypocrisy?
 
scooter -

My point was they could have withdrawn from the ACC - whether they had somewhere to go was not our problem...

Really ? Sorta like quiting your job without having a new one to go to....i.e., all your varsity sports in complete scheduling limbo ?

That would be CHAOS ! The Govenor would not allow such a suicidal decision.
 
Sounds like it's worth $150 million to me.

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The world scares and confuses this guy. But he does know 1 thing- Maryland is entitled to at least $150,000,000. in damages.
 
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