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Why Donald Trump Should Not Be President

Yeah, and nobody has spent any money on negative Trump ads.

This NRA ad has been airing around the clock here and paints some dystopian fantasy that Hillary will take your guns. You know, just like Obama wants to do (he only has a few months left to accomplish that goal!).

The anti-Trump ads I've seen have been from the Hillary campaign and just showcase his own dangerous statements, using his own words against him.
 
Bob how do you reconcile your beliefs here with the fact that Trump has repeatedly outsourced operations and manufacturing of many of his random business dealings to places like China? Also how do you feel about Trump routinely gaming the system for his benefit as evidenced by the way he's used his charities as a place to funnel other people's money to his own businesses.

I don't fault you for your political beliefs whatsoever...they are perfectly legitimate and we as a country should be discussing these things. What I and a lot of other people have a problem with is the fact that you're comfortable giving a pass to a man who is practicing the very same things you denounce.

Donald has never met an employee he doesn't want to grossly underpay. That's why he brought in Polish workers and made them sleep in Trump Tower's hull as they fixed it. It's why he REFUSES to hire Americans at Mar-A-Lago. His paying his employees 20% less and giving terrible benefits in Vegas is why they bucked NV trends and created a union. It's why he was forced to pay six figures for illegal employee practices in Atlantic City.

Trump brings so many jobs back to America that he makes his products in Bangladesh, China and Mexico.

We're not talking about theories or making things up. Donald Trump has been HORRIFIC for American workers during his 40+ year career. To not admit this is to deny history.
 
Also Bob here's a short YouTube video that shows Trump admitting that he makes his products overseas in case you don't believe us.

 
Trumps wife would be a blast as first lady.

I mean she's probably a Russian agent but...............tits. TITS!!!!! Ass. America!

If Hillary wins we get creepy "I put a cigar inside an intern's vagina" Bill Clinton back. Great.

Trump 2016. because Fun, F_cking and Fascism all start with an F and I love it!
 
All of this. http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/donald-trumps-cruel-streak/501554/

Enough. Wake up. Look at this man with fresh eyes.

People disagree about the ideal traits to have in a leader. But almost no one wants a president who has proven himself an addict to being cruel, mean-spirited, and spiteful. For decades, Trump has been deliberately cruel to others, often in the most public ways. He behaves this way flagrantly, showing no sign of shame or reflection.

What kind of person still acts that way at 70? A bad person.

It is that simple.

Giving a cruel man power and expecting that he won’t use it to inflict cruelty is madness. To vote for Trump, knowing all of this, is to knowingly empower cruelty.

Better to recoil in disgust.

Clinton is not a good candidate. I don't really want her to be president. But handing a man like this the keys to the security and intelligence apparatus of the world's only superpower is, to use the writer's word, madness.
 
maybe the NYT should take out a full-page in the WSJ to post that column so trump supporters actually see it
 
Not sure that the Trumpian legions are reading the WSJ. They'd need to get it on Breitbart or Fox News.

Wouldn't matter if they read it anyway. The quote from the article about Trump being cruel, mean-spirited, spiteful, and a bad person -- that's what the people voting for him want, and that's who they are.
 
Not sure that the Trumpian legions are reading the WSJ. They'd need to get it on Breitbart or Fox News.

I think at this point they're just trying to A: Motivate people to vote and B: Get some Johnson voters and swing states to vote Hillary.

The person watching Fox News on the reg isn't going to change their mind. At this point, every news outlet trying to help Hillary out should be doing what John Oliver did, and point out that just saying "both these candidates suck" is being incredibly lazy and unfair considering how much more one sucks than the other.
 
I think at this point they're just trying to A: Motivate people to vote and B: Get some Johnson voters and swing states to vote Hillary.

The person watching Fox News on the reg isn't going to change their mind. At this point, every news outlet trying to help Hillary out should be doing what John Oliver did, and point out that just saying "both these candidates suck" is being incredibly lazy and unfair considering how much more one sucks than the other.

Ain't that the truth. Hillary is so much more of a guaranteed bad leader. With Trump, who knows?
 
maybe the NYT should take out a full-page in the WSJ to post that column so trump supporters actually see it

Not sure that the Trumpian legions are reading the WSJ. They'd need to get it on Breitbart or Fox News.

The elitism and contempt for average Americans just never stops with these guys.

(And W&B thinks I'm the one who "looks down on the working class". What a joke.)
 
The elitism and contempt for average Americans just never stops with these guys.

(And W&B thinks I'm the one who "looks down on the working class". What a joke.)

So you'd be against more people having the opportunity to read an opinion different from yours? Talk about elitism.
 
Trump? How Could We? - Thomas Friedman

My reaction to the Donald Trump-Hillary Clinton debate can be summarized with one word: “How?”

How in the world do we put a man in the Oval Office who thinks NATO is a shopping mall where the tenants aren’t paying enough rent to the U.S. landlord?

NATO is not a shopping mall; it is a strategic alliance that won the Cold War, keeps Europe a stable trading partner for U.S. companies and prevents every European country — particularly Germany — from getting their own nukes to counterbalance Russia, by sheltering them all under America’s nuclear umbrella.

How do we put in the Oval Office a man who does not know enough “beef” about key policies to finish a two-minute answer on any issue without the hamburger helper of bluster, insults and repetition?

How do we put in the Oval Office a man who suggests that the recent spate of cyberattacks — which any senior U.S. intelligence official will tell you came without question from Russia — might not have come from Russia but could have been done by “somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds”?

How do we put in the Oval Office a man who boasts that he tries to pay zero federal taxes but then complains that our airports and roads are falling apart and there is not enough money for our veterans?

How do we put in the Oval Office a man who claims he was against the Iraq war, because he said he privately told that to his pal Sean Hannity of Fox News — even though he publicly supported the war when it began. Trump is so obsessed with proving his infallibility that he missed scoring an easy debate point for himself by saying, “Yes, I supported the Iraq war as a citizen, but Hillary voted for it as a senator when she had access to the intelligence and her job was to make the right judgment.”

How do we put in the Oval Office someone who says we should not have gone into Iraq, but since we did, “we should have taken the oil — ISIS would not have been able to form … because the oil was their primary source of income.”

ISIS formed before it managed to pump any oil, and it sustained itself with millions of dollars that it stole from Iraq’s central bank in Mosul. Meanwhile, Iraq has the world’s fifth-largest oil reserves — 140 billion barrels. Can you imagine how many years we’d have to stay there to pump it all and how much doing so would tarnish our moral standing around the world and energize every jihadist?


How do we put in the Oval Office someone whose campaign manager has to go on every morning show after the debate and lie to try to make up for the nonsense her boss spouted? Kellyanne Conway told CNN on Tuesday morning that when it comes to climate change, “We don’t know what Hillary Clinton believes, because nobody ever asks her.”

Say what? As secretary of state, Clinton backed every global climate negotiation and clean energy initiative. That’s like saying no one knows Hillary’s position on women’s rights.

Conway then went on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” and argued that Clinton, who was secretary of state from 2009 to 2013, had never created a job and was partly responsible for the lack of adequate “roads and bridges” in our country. When challenged on that by MGM Resorts’s C.E.O., James Murren — who argued that his business was up, that the economy was improving and that Clinton’s job as secretary of state was to create stability — Conway responded that Clinton had nothing to do with any improvements in the economy because “she’s never been president so she’s created no financial stability.”

I see: Everything wrong is Clinton’s fault and anything good is to the president’s credit alone. Silly.

The “Squawk Box” segment was devoted to the fact that while Trump claims that he will get the economy growing, very few C.E.O.s of major U.S. companies are supporting him. Also, interesting how positively the stock market reacted to Trump’s debate defeat. Maybe because C.E.O.s and investors know that Trump and Conway are con artists and that recent statistics show income gaps are actually narrowing, wages are rising and poverty is easing.

The Trump-Conway shtick is to trash the country so they can make us great again. Fact: We have problems and not everyone is enjoying the fruits of our economy, but if you want to be an optimist about America, stand on your head — the country looks so much better from the bottom up. What you see are towns and regions not waiting for Washington, D.C., but coming together themselves to fix infrastructure, education and governance. I see it everywhere I go.

I am not enamored of Clinton’s stale, liberal, centralized view of politics, but she is sane and responsible; she’ll do her homework, can grow in the job, and might even work well with Republicans, as she did as a senator.

Trump promises change, but change that comes from someone who thinks people who pay taxes are suckers and who thinks he can show up before an audience of 100 million without preparation or real plans and talk about serious issues with no more sophistication than your crazy uncle — and expect to get away with it — is change the country can’t afford.

Electing such a man would be insanity.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/09/28/opinion/trump-how-could-we.html?referer=https://www.google.com/
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ral-these-teachers-of-the-year-say-they-cant/


Teachers are expected to remain politically neutral. These Teachers of the Year say they can’t.

Donald Trump speaks at a campaign event in Columbus, Ohio, on Oct. 13. (Mike Segar/Reuters)
Teachers are often expected to remain politically neutral in class, not letting their students know which candidate they support or where they stand on controversial issues.

Part of the thinking behind this position is that students could be insulted or intimidated from expressing contrary thoughts. Some parents fear that teachers could “indoctrinate” students by expressing their own views in class. As a result, many teachers are hesitant to — and often are expected not to — reveal political views.

In the unprecedented 2016 presidential election, some teachers are casting aside their neutrality to speak their mind. They say the stakes are too high in this election to stay quiet.

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They include 10 former state and national Teachers of the Year, who have written an open letter explaining why they are taking sides — in public — in this race. Here’s the letter, and you can see who signed it at the end:

We are teachers. We teach children to become better writers, readers, scientists, mathematicians, and thinkers, so they can go on to live the lives they dream. We also help children become good human beings — to work hard, to do the right thing, and above all else, to be kind to one another.

We are teachers. We are supposed to remain politically neutral. For valid reasons, we don’t want to offend our students, colleagues or community members. But there are times when a moral imperative outweighs traditional social norms. There are times when silence is the voice of complicity. This year’s presidential election is one such time.

As teachers, we welcome all children into our classrooms, regardless of the color of their skin, how much money their parents make, or their religious beliefs. That notion of equality is at the heart of what it means to be an American.

We believe that Donald Trump is a danger to our society in general and to our students in particular. His words and actions have shown a consistent disdain for human dignity. His behavior goes against everything we teach the children in our care.

We teach children that girls are just as smart, capable, and worthy of respect as boys. Donald Trump has mocked women in myriad ways, including his post-debate tirades against Alicia Machado, his off-color innuendo about FOX host Megyn Kelly, and his predatory boasts about groping.

We teach children that the content of their character, not the color of their skin, determines their worth. Donald Trump has attacked Latinos, Muslims, and African-Americans. He has described Mexican immigrants as “rapists,” called for an immigration ban based entirely on refugees’ religious beliefs, and questioned our first Black president’s citizenship long after it became clear that Obama is indeed American.

The fear felt by people of color, including young children and their families, is real. An eight-year old Mexican-American girl came up to her teacher, her eyes wide and her expression solemn. She asked: “Mr. Minkel, are you scared of Donald Trump? I am very afraid of him.”

An Indian-American woman told her former teacher: “Mr. O, my 9 year-old came home upset and asked me if we will have to live on the other side of the wall—because that’s where brown people will have to live—and whether I will still be her mom if Trump wins.”

We teach children to stand up for what is right when they see someone acting cruelly or disrespectfully toward others. At Donald Trump’s rallies, he has tolerated and even egged on chants like “Build a wall — kill them all!” He has shown a willingness to accept support from hate groups in our country, and he has made it acceptable to voice and act on that hate.

The impact on our students was seen during a high school game in Indiana where white students chanted “Trump!” and “Build the wall!” at a rival team whose players were primarily Hispanic.

Words matter. So do actions. Even when children don’t listen to what we say, they pay very careful attention to what we do.

Donald Trump has mocked and mimicked the disability of a reporter — a form of bullying that no teacher would accept. He has coyly urged the assassination of his rival. He has disrespected the sacrifice of a military family who lost their son. He has cloaked hatred and discrimination, the most un-American of values, in a false patriotism. His vision of America is not a unified country based on common values; rather it is a separate and unequal country based on race, gender, ethnicity and religion. We believe the threat posed by Mr. Trump is too glaring to ignore.

Children are watching. They are listening. They are learning from the example we set as their parents and teachers—not only from what we say and do, but from what we accept when it comes to the words and actions of others. We have to show them that hatred, sexism, racism, disrespect, and threats of physical violence are not okay. They’re unacceptable at any age — for a kindergartener, a high school student, or a presidential candidate.

As teachers, we strongly oppose Donald Trump’s candidacy for president. Our students and our country deserve better. In our two-party electoral system, that means we must support Hillary Clinton, the only other candidate with a legitimate shot to beat him. She isn’t perfect, but we believe Clinton has the temperament and requisite skills to do the job.

Most importantly, we believe she will uphold the American values of civility, equality and dignity for all. Those values speak to our better angels and give hope to each new generation, including the youngest citizens who walk through our classroom doors each day.

Richard Ognibene, 2008 New York Teacher of the Year

Justin Minkel, 2007 Arkansas Teacher of the Year

Shanna Peeples, 2015 National Teacher of the Year and Texas Teacher of the Year

James Ford, 2015 North Carolina Teacher of the Year

Mohsen Ghafarri, 2015 Utah Teacher of the Year

Jemelleh Coes, 2014 Georgia Teacher of the Year

Pamela Cort, 2013 New Mexico Teacher of the Year

Megan Allen, 2010 Florida Teacher of the Year

Rich Mayorga, 2003 Arizona Teacher of the Year

Dr. Patricia Jordan, 1993 New York Teacher of the Year
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ral-these-teachers-of-the-year-say-they-cant/


Teachers are expected to remain politically neutral. These Teachers of the Year say they can’t.

Donald Trump speaks at a campaign event in Columbus, Ohio, on Oct. 13. (Mike Segar/Reuters)
Teachers are often expected to remain politically neutral in class, not letting their students know which candidate they support or where they stand on controversial issues.

Part of the thinking behind this position is that students could be insulted or intimidated from expressing contrary thoughts. Some parents fear that teachers could “indoctrinate” students by expressing their own views in class. As a result, many teachers are hesitant to — and often are expected not to — reveal political views.

In the unprecedented 2016 presidential election, some teachers are casting aside their neutrality to speak their mind. They say the stakes are too high in this election to stay quiet.

Answer Sheet newsletter
Education questions and answers, in your inbox weekly.
They include 10 former state and national Teachers of the Year, who have written an open letter explaining why they are taking sides — in public — in this race. Here’s the letter, and you can see who signed it at the end:

We are teachers. We teach children to become better writers, readers, scientists, mathematicians, and thinkers, so they can go on to live the lives they dream. We also help children become good human beings — to work hard, to do the right thing, and above all else, to be kind to one another.

We are teachers. We are supposed to remain politically neutral. For valid reasons, we don’t want to offend our students, colleagues or community members. But there are times when a moral imperative outweighs traditional social norms. There are times when silence is the voice of complicity. This year’s presidential election is one such time.

As teachers, we welcome all children into our classrooms, regardless of the color of their skin, how much money their parents make, or their religious beliefs. That notion of equality is at the heart of what it means to be an American.

We believe that Donald Trump is a danger to our society in general and to our students in particular. His words and actions have shown a consistent disdain for human dignity. His behavior goes against everything we teach the children in our care.

We teach children that girls are just as smart, capable, and worthy of respect as boys. Donald Trump has mocked women in myriad ways, including his post-debate tirades against Alicia Machado, his off-color innuendo about FOX host Megyn Kelly, and his predatory boasts about groping.

We teach children that the content of their character, not the color of their skin, determines their worth. Donald Trump has attacked Latinos, Muslims, and African-Americans. He has described Mexican immigrants as “rapists,” called for an immigration ban based entirely on refugees’ religious beliefs, and questioned our first Black president’s citizenship long after it became clear that Obama is indeed American.

The fear felt by people of color, including young children and their families, is real. An eight-year old Mexican-American girl came up to her teacher, her eyes wide and her expression solemn. She asked: “Mr. Minkel, are you scared of Donald Trump? I am very afraid of him.”

An Indian-American woman told her former teacher: “Mr. O, my 9 year-old came home upset and asked me if we will have to live on the other side of the wall—because that’s where brown people will have to live—and whether I will still be her mom if Trump wins.”

We teach children to stand up for what is right when they see someone acting cruelly or disrespectfully toward others. At Donald Trump’s rallies, he has tolerated and even egged on chants like “Build a wall — kill them all!” He has shown a willingness to accept support from hate groups in our country, and he has made it acceptable to voice and act on that hate.

The impact on our students was seen during a high school game in Indiana where white students chanted “Trump!” and “Build the wall!” at a rival team whose players were primarily Hispanic.

Words matter. So do actions. Even when children don’t listen to what we say, they pay very careful attention to what we do.

Donald Trump has mocked and mimicked the disability of a reporter — a form of bullying that no teacher would accept. He has coyly urged the assassination of his rival. He has disrespected the sacrifice of a military family who lost their son. He has cloaked hatred and discrimination, the most un-American of values, in a false patriotism. His vision of America is not a unified country based on common values; rather it is a separate and unequal country based on race, gender, ethnicity and religion. We believe the threat posed by Mr. Trump is too glaring to ignore.

Children are watching. They are listening. They are learning from the example we set as their parents and teachers—not only from what we say and do, but from what we accept when it comes to the words and actions of others. We have to show them that hatred, sexism, racism, disrespect, and threats of physical violence are not okay. They’re unacceptable at any age — for a kindergartener, a high school student, or a presidential candidate.

As teachers, we strongly oppose Donald Trump’s candidacy for president. Our students and our country deserve better. In our two-party electoral system, that means we must support Hillary Clinton, the only other candidate with a legitimate shot to beat him. She isn’t perfect, but we believe Clinton has the temperament and requisite skills to do the job.

Most importantly, we believe she will uphold the American values of civility, equality and dignity for all. Those values speak to our better angels and give hope to each new generation, including the youngest citizens who walk through our classroom doors each day.

Richard Ognibene, 2008 New York Teacher of the Year

Justin Minkel, 2007 Arkansas Teacher of the Year

Shanna Peeples, 2015 National Teacher of the Year and Texas Teacher of the Year

James Ford, 2015 North Carolina Teacher of the Year

Mohsen Ghafarri, 2015 Utah Teacher of the Year

Jemelleh Coes, 2014 Georgia Teacher of the Year

Pamela Cort, 2013 New Mexico Teacher of the Year

Megan Allen, 2010 Florida Teacher of the Year

Rich Mayorga, 2003 Arizona Teacher of the Year

Dr. Patricia Jordan, 1993 New York Teacher of the Year

Trump must really be bad for America. The media and academia no longer willing to pretend neutrality.
 
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