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I didn’t have a lot of time to research this year, and am not particularly up-to-date on early entry candidates or transfers. Post below and I’ll add/correct as necessary.
Key losses/returners had a 3.0 ppg minimum cut-off. I pulled the stats before the NCAA Tourney, so they may be slightly off.
Key newcomers include transfers (subject to the 3.0 ppg cut-off) and top-100 ESPN recruits. ESPN sucks, but the RSCI hasn’t been updated since October, so it’s the best I can do.
I’ve marked potential early-entries with an asterisk, and have categorized them as returners or losses based on how likely I think they are to go pro. It’s an inexact science.
Some of you idiots will not read these disclaimers and will undoubtedly bitch about a player not being listed in a certain category. Learn how to read.
Teams That Should Be Better
Duke 23-10 (11-7), Sweet Sixteen
Returners: Grayson Allen (21.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3.5 apg, confirmed return); Luke Kennard (11.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg); Amile Jefferson (11.4 ppg, 10.3 rpg); Matt Jones (10.4 ppg)
Losses: Brandon Ingram* (17.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg); Marshall Plumlee (8.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg); Derryck Thornton (7.1 ppg, transfer)
Newcomers: Harry Satan Giles, PF, #1 overall; Jayson Tatum, SF, #2 overall; Frank Jackson, SG, #11 overall; Javin DeLaurier, PF, #43 overall
Duck Fuke
Virginia Tech 19-14 (10-8), NIT
Returners: Zach LeDay (15.5 ppg, 7.9 rpg); Seth Allen (14.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg); Justin Bibbs (11.7 ppg, 3.3 rpg); Chris Clarke (8.4 ppg, 6.0 rpg); Justin Robinson (7.3 ppg); Kerry Blackshear, Jr. (6.2 ppg)
Losses: Jalen Hudson (8.4 ppg)
Newcomers: None
I’m not bothering to do the math, but was confident in saying that no team returns more of their scoring than VPI
Pittsburgh 21-11 (9-9), NCAA
Returners: Michael Young (15.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg); Jamel Artis (14.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.0 apg); Sheldon Jeter (8.1 ppg, 4.8 rpg); Chris Jones (6.1 ppg); Ryan Luther (5.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg); Camerson Johnson (4.8 ppg); Damon Wilson (3.3 ppg)
Losses: James Robinson (10.2 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg); Sterling Smith (4.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg);
Newcomers: None
On paper, they should be significantly better. The real wild card here will be Stallings.
Syracuse 19-13 (9-9), Final Four
Returners: Malachi Richardson (13.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg); Tyler Lydon (10.1 ppg, 6.3 rpg); Tyler Roberson (8.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg); DaJuan Coleman (4.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg)
Losses: Michael Gbinije (17.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.3 apg); Trevor Cooney (12.9 ppg)
Newcomers: Tyus Battle, SG, #35 overall; Matthew Moyer, PF, #57 overall
Cuse was very thin last year, with only 7 players logging 10 mpg, and their top 5 all over 30. Three of those five are back, and I’d expect their record to improve.
Florida State 19-13 (8-10), NIT
Returners: Dwayne Bacon (15.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg); Xavier Rathan-Mayes (11.8 ppg, 4.4 apg); Terance Mann (5.2 ppg, 3.7 rpg); Jarquez Smith (5.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg); Benji Bell (3.8 ppg)
Losses: Malik Beasley* (15.6 ppg, 5.3 rpg); Devon Bookert (9.5 ppg); Boris Bojanovsky (6.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg); Montay Brandon (3.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg)
Newcomers: Jonathan Isaac, SF, #12 overall; Trent Forrest, PG, #58 overall; C.J. Walker, PG, #84 overall
Down year for Hamilton and co., but should be back in the tournament with another good recruiting class and no huge losses (except Beasley?)
NC State 16-17 (5-13), none
Returners: Abdul-Malik Abu (12.9 ppg, 8.8 rpg); Maverick Rowan (12.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg); BeeJay Anya (4.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg); Lennard Freeman (3.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg)
Losses: Cat Barber* (23.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 4.5 apg); Caleb Martin (11.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg); Cody Martin (6.0 ppg, 4.4 rpg)
Newcomers: Torin Dorn (UNCC transfer, 12.0 ppg, 3.7 rpg in ’15); Terry Henderson (WVU transfer injured in ‘16, 11.7 ppg in ‘15); Dennis Smith, Jr., PG, top ten recruit before enrolling early
It seems unlikely Barber will be back, but they bring in some solid new talent in the backcourt and return their bigs.
Boston College 7-25 (0-18), none
Returners: Jerome Robinson (11.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.0 apg); A.J. Turner (5.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg); Sammy Barnes-Thompkins (5.5 ppg); Matt Milon (5.4 ppg); Garland Owens (4.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg); Ervins Meznieks (3.5 ppg)
Losses: Eli Carter (16.0 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 4.0 apg); Dennis Clifford (9.9 ppg, 7.3 rpg)
Newcomers: Connor Tava (WMU post-grad, 12.3 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 3.3 apg)
Pretty hefty losses for what was already a bottom-feeder, but how could they not be better?
Teams That Should Be About the Same
UNC 28-6 (14-4), Nat’l Runner-Up
Returners: Joel Berry II (12.8 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.8 apg); Justin Jackson (12.2 ppg, 3.9 rpg); Kennedy Meeks (9.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg); Isaiah Hicks (8.9 ppg, 4.6 rpg); Nate Britt (5.4 ppg); Theo Pinson (4.5 ppg, 3.2 rpg)
Losses: Brice Johnson (17.0 ppg, 10.4 rpg); Marcus Paige (12.6 ppg, 3.8 apg)
Newcomers: Tony Bradley, C, #21 overall; Brandon Robinson, SG, #55 overall; Seventh Woods, SG, #59 overall
The defending national champions runners-up will be stacked again next year.
Louisville 23-8 (12-6), ineligible
Returners: Chinanu Onuaku* (9.9 ppg, 8.5 ppg); Quentin Snider (9.4 ppg, 3.5 apg); Donovan Mitchell (7.4 ppg, 3.4 rpg); Mangok Mathiang (7.1 ppg, 5.7 ppg, 10 games); Raymond Spalding (5.6 ppg, 4.3 rpg); Jaylen Johnson (5.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg); Deng Adel (4.0 ppg); Anas Mahmoud (3.4 ppg)
Losses: Damion Lee (15.9 ppg, 3.9 rpg); Trey Lewis (11.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg)
Newcomers: V.J. King, SF, #26 overall; Tony Hicks (Penn grad transfer, 13.2 ppg)
Guaranteed that they’ll have a better postseason than this year.
Clemson 17-14 (10-8), none
Returners: Donte Grantham (10.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg); Avry Holmes (10.0 ppg); Sidy Djitte (5.3 ppg, 5.2 rpg); Gabe DeVoe (5.3 ppg)
Losses: Jaron Blossomgame* (18.7 ppg, 6.7 rpg); Jordan Roper (8.8 ppg, 3.8 apg); Landry Nnoko (8.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg);
Newcomers: Marcquise Reed (RMU transfer, 15.1 ppg); Shelton Mitchell (Vandy transfer, 4.3 ppg, 3.3 apg)
Blossomgame is reportedly leaving his options open. If he returns, Clemson could actually be pretty solid next year. If not, it’ll be another Clemson-y year.
Teams That Should be Worse
UVA 26-7 (13-5), Elite Eight
Returners: London Perrantes (11.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.4 apg); Isaiah Wilkins (4.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg); Devon Hall (4.4 ppg); Marial Shayok (4.3 ppg); Darius Thompson (4.3 ppg)
Losses: Malcolm Brogdon (18.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 3.1 apg); Anthony Gill (13.8 ppg, 6.1 rpg); Mike Tobey (7.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg)
Newcomers: Kyle Guy, SG, #24 overall; Ty Jerome, PG, #42 overall; Jay Huff, C, #71 overall; DeAndre Hunter, SF, #82 overall; Austin Nichols (Memphis transfer, 13.3 ppg, 6.1 rpg)
Losing Brogdon and Gill will hurt, but UVA will continue to be very good next year, and has elevated their recruiting as a result of their success
Miami 25-7 (13-5), Sweet Sixteen
Returners: Davon Reed (11.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg); Ja’Quan Newton (10.5 ppg); Kamari Murphy (5.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg); Anthony Lawrence, Jr. (4.1 ppg); James Palmer (3.5 ppg)
Losses: Sheldon McClellan (16.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg); Angel Rodriguez (12.6 ppg, 4.5 apg); Tonye Jekiri (7.6 ppg, 8.6 rpg); Ivan Cruz Uceda (5.4 ppg)
Newcomers: Dewan Huell, PF, #23 overall; Bruce Brown, SG, #31 overall; Rashad Muhammad (SJSU transfer, 13.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg)
Lots of talent coming in, but also heavy losses. UM will be good, but doubt they’ll be a three-seed again.
Notre Dame 21-11 (11-7), Elite Eight
Returners: V.J. Beachem (12.0 ppg, 3.9 rpg); Steve Casturia (11.4 ppg, 3.2 apg); Bonzie Colson (11.1 ppg, 6.7 rpg); Matt Ryan (5.1 ppg)
Losses: Demetrius Jackson* (15.8 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 4.7 apg); Zach Auguste (14.0 ppg, 10.7 rpg)
Newcomers: Temple Gibbs, SG, #78 overall
Haven’t seen anything one way or the other about whether Jackson intends to go pro, but he’s mocked pretty highly on a couple of sites. They jump way up if he’s back.
Georgia Tech 19-14 (8-10), NIT
Returners: Quentin Stephens (5.0 ppg, 3.8 rpg); Tadric Jackson (4.7 ppg); Ben Lammers (3.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg);
Losses: Marcus Georges-Hunt (16.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.3 apg); Adam Smith (15.0 ppg); Nick Jacobs (10.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg); Charles Mitchell (10.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg); James White (3.5 ppg, 4.4 rpg)
Newcomers: Romellow White, PF #74 overall
Ouch
Submitted Without Comment
Wake Forest 11-20 (2-16), none
Returners: Bryant Crawford (13.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.4 apg); Konstantinos Mitoglou (9.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg); John Collins (7.3 ppg, 3.9 rpg); Mitchell Wilbekin (7.3 ppg); Doral Moore (3.8 ppg); Greg McClinton (3.2 ppg)
Losses: Devin Thomas (15.6 ppg, 10.2 rpg); Codi Miller-McIntyre (9.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.0 apg); Cornelius Hudson (7.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg); Rondale Watson (3.1 ppg)
Newcomers: Keyshawn Woods (UNCC transfer, 8.4 ppg)
Key losses/returners had a 3.0 ppg minimum cut-off. I pulled the stats before the NCAA Tourney, so they may be slightly off.
Key newcomers include transfers (subject to the 3.0 ppg cut-off) and top-100 ESPN recruits. ESPN sucks, but the RSCI hasn’t been updated since October, so it’s the best I can do.
I’ve marked potential early-entries with an asterisk, and have categorized them as returners or losses based on how likely I think they are to go pro. It’s an inexact science.
Some of you idiots will not read these disclaimers and will undoubtedly bitch about a player not being listed in a certain category. Learn how to read.
Teams That Should Be Better
Duke 23-10 (11-7), Sweet Sixteen
Returners: Grayson Allen (21.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 3.5 apg, confirmed return); Luke Kennard (11.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg); Amile Jefferson (11.4 ppg, 10.3 rpg); Matt Jones (10.4 ppg)
Losses: Brandon Ingram* (17.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg); Marshall Plumlee (8.3 ppg, 8.6 rpg); Derryck Thornton (7.1 ppg, transfer)
Newcomers: Harry Satan Giles, PF, #1 overall; Jayson Tatum, SF, #2 overall; Frank Jackson, SG, #11 overall; Javin DeLaurier, PF, #43 overall
Duck Fuke
Virginia Tech 19-14 (10-8), NIT
Returners: Zach LeDay (15.5 ppg, 7.9 rpg); Seth Allen (14.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg); Justin Bibbs (11.7 ppg, 3.3 rpg); Chris Clarke (8.4 ppg, 6.0 rpg); Justin Robinson (7.3 ppg); Kerry Blackshear, Jr. (6.2 ppg)
Losses: Jalen Hudson (8.4 ppg)
Newcomers: None
I’m not bothering to do the math, but was confident in saying that no team returns more of their scoring than VPI
Pittsburgh 21-11 (9-9), NCAA
Returners: Michael Young (15.7 ppg, 6.9 rpg); Jamel Artis (14.4 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.0 apg); Sheldon Jeter (8.1 ppg, 4.8 rpg); Chris Jones (6.1 ppg); Ryan Luther (5.2 ppg, 3.0 rpg); Camerson Johnson (4.8 ppg); Damon Wilson (3.3 ppg)
Losses: James Robinson (10.2 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 5.0 apg); Sterling Smith (4.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg);
Newcomers: None
On paper, they should be significantly better. The real wild card here will be Stallings.
Syracuse 19-13 (9-9), Final Four
Returners: Malachi Richardson (13.4 ppg, 4.3 rpg); Tyler Lydon (10.1 ppg, 6.3 rpg); Tyler Roberson (8.8 ppg, 8.5 rpg); DaJuan Coleman (4.9 ppg, 4.7 rpg)
Losses: Michael Gbinije (17.5 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 4.3 apg); Trevor Cooney (12.9 ppg)
Newcomers: Tyus Battle, SG, #35 overall; Matthew Moyer, PF, #57 overall
Cuse was very thin last year, with only 7 players logging 10 mpg, and their top 5 all over 30. Three of those five are back, and I’d expect their record to improve.
Florida State 19-13 (8-10), NIT
Returners: Dwayne Bacon (15.8 ppg, 5.8 rpg); Xavier Rathan-Mayes (11.8 ppg, 4.4 apg); Terance Mann (5.2 ppg, 3.7 rpg); Jarquez Smith (5.1 ppg, 3.5 rpg); Benji Bell (3.8 ppg)
Losses: Malik Beasley* (15.6 ppg, 5.3 rpg); Devon Bookert (9.5 ppg); Boris Bojanovsky (6.1 ppg, 4.4 rpg); Montay Brandon (3.2 ppg, 3.1 rpg)
Newcomers: Jonathan Isaac, SF, #12 overall; Trent Forrest, PG, #58 overall; C.J. Walker, PG, #84 overall
Down year for Hamilton and co., but should be back in the tournament with another good recruiting class and no huge losses (except Beasley?)
NC State 16-17 (5-13), none
Returners: Abdul-Malik Abu (12.9 ppg, 8.8 rpg); Maverick Rowan (12.9 ppg, 3.1 rpg); BeeJay Anya (4.7 ppg, 5.3 rpg); Lennard Freeman (3.2 ppg, 5.0 rpg)
Losses: Cat Barber* (23.5 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 4.5 apg); Caleb Martin (11.5 ppg, 4.7 rpg); Cody Martin (6.0 ppg, 4.4 rpg)
Newcomers: Torin Dorn (UNCC transfer, 12.0 ppg, 3.7 rpg in ’15); Terry Henderson (WVU transfer injured in ‘16, 11.7 ppg in ‘15); Dennis Smith, Jr., PG, top ten recruit before enrolling early
It seems unlikely Barber will be back, but they bring in some solid new talent in the backcourt and return their bigs.
Boston College 7-25 (0-18), none
Returners: Jerome Robinson (11.7 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.0 apg); A.J. Turner (5.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg); Sammy Barnes-Thompkins (5.5 ppg); Matt Milon (5.4 ppg); Garland Owens (4.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg); Ervins Meznieks (3.5 ppg)
Losses: Eli Carter (16.0 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 4.0 apg); Dennis Clifford (9.9 ppg, 7.3 rpg)
Newcomers: Connor Tava (WMU post-grad, 12.3 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 3.3 apg)
Pretty hefty losses for what was already a bottom-feeder, but how could they not be better?
Teams That Should Be About the Same
UNC 28-6 (14-4), Nat’l Runner-Up
Returners: Joel Berry II (12.8 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.8 apg); Justin Jackson (12.2 ppg, 3.9 rpg); Kennedy Meeks (9.2 ppg, 5.9 rpg); Isaiah Hicks (8.9 ppg, 4.6 rpg); Nate Britt (5.4 ppg); Theo Pinson (4.5 ppg, 3.2 rpg)
Losses: Brice Johnson (17.0 ppg, 10.4 rpg); Marcus Paige (12.6 ppg, 3.8 apg)
Newcomers: Tony Bradley, C, #21 overall; Brandon Robinson, SG, #55 overall; Seventh Woods, SG, #59 overall
The defending national champions runners-up will be stacked again next year.
Louisville 23-8 (12-6), ineligible
Returners: Chinanu Onuaku* (9.9 ppg, 8.5 ppg); Quentin Snider (9.4 ppg, 3.5 apg); Donovan Mitchell (7.4 ppg, 3.4 rpg); Mangok Mathiang (7.1 ppg, 5.7 ppg, 10 games); Raymond Spalding (5.6 ppg, 4.3 rpg); Jaylen Johnson (5.0 ppg, 3.5 rpg); Deng Adel (4.0 ppg); Anas Mahmoud (3.4 ppg)
Losses: Damion Lee (15.9 ppg, 3.9 rpg); Trey Lewis (11.3 ppg, 3.4 rpg)
Newcomers: V.J. King, SF, #26 overall; Tony Hicks (Penn grad transfer, 13.2 ppg)
Guaranteed that they’ll have a better postseason than this year.
Clemson 17-14 (10-8), none
Returners: Donte Grantham (10.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg); Avry Holmes (10.0 ppg); Sidy Djitte (5.3 ppg, 5.2 rpg); Gabe DeVoe (5.3 ppg)
Losses: Jaron Blossomgame* (18.7 ppg, 6.7 rpg); Jordan Roper (8.8 ppg, 3.8 apg); Landry Nnoko (8.1 ppg, 5.7 rpg);
Newcomers: Marcquise Reed (RMU transfer, 15.1 ppg); Shelton Mitchell (Vandy transfer, 4.3 ppg, 3.3 apg)
Blossomgame is reportedly leaving his options open. If he returns, Clemson could actually be pretty solid next year. If not, it’ll be another Clemson-y year.
Teams That Should be Worse
UVA 26-7 (13-5), Elite Eight
Returners: London Perrantes (11.0 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.4 apg); Isaiah Wilkins (4.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg); Devon Hall (4.4 ppg); Marial Shayok (4.3 ppg); Darius Thompson (4.3 ppg)
Losses: Malcolm Brogdon (18.2 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 3.1 apg); Anthony Gill (13.8 ppg, 6.1 rpg); Mike Tobey (7.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg)
Newcomers: Kyle Guy, SG, #24 overall; Ty Jerome, PG, #42 overall; Jay Huff, C, #71 overall; DeAndre Hunter, SF, #82 overall; Austin Nichols (Memphis transfer, 13.3 ppg, 6.1 rpg)
Losing Brogdon and Gill will hurt, but UVA will continue to be very good next year, and has elevated their recruiting as a result of their success
Miami 25-7 (13-5), Sweet Sixteen
Returners: Davon Reed (11.1 ppg, 4.1 rpg); Ja’Quan Newton (10.5 ppg); Kamari Murphy (5.6 ppg, 6.0 rpg); Anthony Lawrence, Jr. (4.1 ppg); James Palmer (3.5 ppg)
Losses: Sheldon McClellan (16.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg); Angel Rodriguez (12.6 ppg, 4.5 apg); Tonye Jekiri (7.6 ppg, 8.6 rpg); Ivan Cruz Uceda (5.4 ppg)
Newcomers: Dewan Huell, PF, #23 overall; Bruce Brown, SG, #31 overall; Rashad Muhammad (SJSU transfer, 13.9 ppg, 3.3 rpg)
Lots of talent coming in, but also heavy losses. UM will be good, but doubt they’ll be a three-seed again.
Notre Dame 21-11 (11-7), Elite Eight
Returners: V.J. Beachem (12.0 ppg, 3.9 rpg); Steve Casturia (11.4 ppg, 3.2 apg); Bonzie Colson (11.1 ppg, 6.7 rpg); Matt Ryan (5.1 ppg)
Losses: Demetrius Jackson* (15.8 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 4.7 apg); Zach Auguste (14.0 ppg, 10.7 rpg)
Newcomers: Temple Gibbs, SG, #78 overall
Haven’t seen anything one way or the other about whether Jackson intends to go pro, but he’s mocked pretty highly on a couple of sites. They jump way up if he’s back.
Georgia Tech 19-14 (8-10), NIT
Returners: Quentin Stephens (5.0 ppg, 3.8 rpg); Tadric Jackson (4.7 ppg); Ben Lammers (3.6 ppg, 4.0 rpg);
Losses: Marcus Georges-Hunt (16.7 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 3.3 apg); Adam Smith (15.0 ppg); Nick Jacobs (10.5 ppg, 5.8 rpg); Charles Mitchell (10.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg); James White (3.5 ppg, 4.4 rpg)
Newcomers: Romellow White, PF #74 overall
Ouch
Submitted Without Comment
Wake Forest 11-20 (2-16), none
Returners: Bryant Crawford (13.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.4 apg); Konstantinos Mitoglou (9.2 ppg, 5.4 rpg); John Collins (7.3 ppg, 3.9 rpg); Mitchell Wilbekin (7.3 ppg); Doral Moore (3.8 ppg); Greg McClinton (3.2 ppg)
Losses: Devin Thomas (15.6 ppg, 10.2 rpg); Codi Miller-McIntyre (9.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 4.0 apg); Cornelius Hudson (7.8 ppg, 3.3 rpg); Rondale Watson (3.1 ppg)
Newcomers: Keyshawn Woods (UNCC transfer, 8.4 ppg)
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