General Election Thread: Two Weeks Out

The only thing about the debate is that Lester Holt doing what your breitbart article says he might do is not good. You need Hillary to fact check him and not the moderator or it will just be brushed off as media bias. Additionally people are lemmings and so whatever the overwhelming media says they will eat up, which means they shouldn't hold trump to trump standards where it's a tie/win if he doesn't have a complete meltdown. It should be the same standard any other presidential candidate would be held to, and all past candidates as well. That means debate based on facts and ability to relay real policy etc... Somehow I doubt that happens since it hasn't really happened yet, but who really knows.

I'm somewhat convinced myself Trump is going to win based off of millennials being millennials, the presence of Gary Johnson, and the uncrossable divide of two party politics.
 
Ironic that Trump and Sanders are two peas in a pod when it comes to gouging taxpayers for Secret Service protection.
 
If the new CNN poll is right and Clinton's only up 1 in PA she better be very worried. If she loses PA she's not gonna win.
 
If the new CNN poll is right and Clinton's only up 1 in PA she better be very worried. If she loses PA she's not gonna win.

Regardless of what RJ & some others think, the turnout for Hillary from black & young voters is going to be down considerably from what it was for Obama....and, correspondingly, an enthusiastic white voter turnout for Trump is going to be considerably higher than it was for Romney. Republicans have already made huge gains in new voter registrations. And then there is that 3rd straight party win thing.

If Trump can just get a draw from these debates, he is going to win this election. He will, however, have to survive a massive onslaught of desperate negative media ads in the closing weeks of the campaign by powerful entrenched interests who realize that they may well lose their long-held grip on the country. Desperate people will do & say desperate things. The Trump campaign had better be ready for it, because these people will not go down without firing every missile they have at him.
 
Apparently the Internet warriors that digest everything and anything say the new polls under demographics have N/A for millennial age and non-white voters. If that's true the media has gone full retard because you can't publish polls that supposedly are representative with N/A under key demographics. Just wait and increase your sample size. I'm beginning to think while clearly things are extremely close that every media group has gone straight click bait.
 
General Election Thread: Clinton vs. Trump vs. Johnson

Also, Philly is N/A. Does N/A mean those areas and demographics weren't polled? I really doubt that.

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Thought I would post this latest article from Pennsylvania to cheer up Hillary's supporters:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...and-you/ar-BBwCLvG?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp


"Clinton’s poll numbers are sagging, and the biggest reason is that she’s plunging among young voters. A Quinnipiac University poll this month found that in a four-way race, Clinton is up 5 points nationally with 18- to 34-year-old voters, down from a 24-point lead just a month before.
Just days ahead of the first debate Monday and less than two months before voting ends, interviews with more than 30 young voters in the battleground state of Pennsylvania underscore her two challenges: Many young voters are taking serious looks at Donald Trump as well as Libertarian Gary Johnson and the Green Party’s Jill Stein. And many are debating whether they even want to vote this year."


What an odd cognitive dissonance it must be for Bob with millennials shifting away from Hillary.
 
So Gennifer Flowers isn't going to the debate? Wow, can't believe a thing Trump tweets.
 
I don't know what else not applicable means. They probably tried to with their methods poll those groups but statistically they didn't gather enough data to form statistics on them. Maybe it baking the numbers for post debate bounces who knows.
 
So Gennifer Flowers isn't going to the debate? Wow, can't believe a thing Trump tweets.

I say kudos to Trump and his campaign for showing some class and not turning this important debate into a circus. Shame on Hillary for treating it as a joke and giving notorious twitter troll Mark Cuban a front row seat. :mad:
 
I say kudos to Trump and his campaign for showing some class and not turning this important debate into a circus. Shame on Hillary for treating it as a joke and giving notorious twitter troll Mark Cuban a front row seat. :mad:

Yeah because inviting your opponent's husband's mistress (who has been out of the public eye long enough that I had to look her up) is the same as inviting your opponent's occasional Twitter troll who is a prominent public figure and perhaps the closest analog to Trump.
 
I say kudos to Trump and his campaign for showing some class and not turning this important debate into a circus. Shame on Hillary for treating it as a joke and giving notorious twitter troll Mark Cuban a front row seat. :mad:

Downplaying Mark Cuban to a "twitter troll" is the rough equivalent to calling Barack Obama a "community organizer".
 
Apparently the Internet warriors that digest everything and anything say the new polls under demographics have N/A for millennial age and non-white voters. If that's true the media has gone full retard because you can't publish polls that supposedly are representative with N/A under key demographics. Just wait and increase your sample size. I'm beginning to think while clearly things are extremely close that every media group has gone straight click bait.

fire up the unskewing websites
 
Attention Nate Silver devotees:
Nate Silver from 538 was the one who repeatedly said Trump couldn't win the GOP nomination. And now he's not only trying to frame the narrative, he's changing his methods to further skew polls in Clinton's direction.
PROOF:

Today's polls come from 5 different pollsters. 538 are adjusting for house effect, which means they're adding or subtracting percentages based on a pollster's previous inherent bias. That's not necessarily a bad method. Now he's changing the house effects mid-race to help Clinton.
Proof that 538 changed 4 out of 5 pollsters today to help Clinton:

QUINNIPIAC

This pollster is considered +1R --> adjust polls +1 in Clinton's favor. Last update on that Sep 22 in 4 polls. Proof.
TODAY'S POLL: +2 ADJUSTMENT IN CLINTON'S FAVOR. WHAT CHANGED, NATE?

CNN

No House Effect, no adjustment. Last update on Sept. 14 showing no adjustment. Proof.
TODAY'S POLL: +1 ADJUSTMENT IN CLINTON'S FAVOR. WHAT CHANGED, NATE?

RKM

Usually +1D --> adjust polls +1 in Trump's favor. Last update on that Sep 4 in 1 poll. Proof.
TODAY'S POLL: +1 ADJUSTMENT IN CLINTON'S FAVOR (CHANGE OF +2 IN CLINTON'S FAVOR FROM LAST UPDATE). WHAT CHANGED, NATE?

SurveyUSA

This pollster is usually +1D --> adjust polls +1 in Trump's favor. Last updates on that Sept 13 and Sept 14 in 4 polls total. Proof.
TODAY'S POLL: NO ADJUSTMENT (A CHANGE OF +1 CLINTON). WHAT CHANGED, NATE?

And I haven't even mentioned that he unskews LA Times by 4 points against Trump ...
 
Bob a number three you are excited about for a Trump presidency is the end to any conspiracies right? Like he definitely would disclose aliens, JFK, etc...
 
Bob a number three you are excited about for a Trump presidency is the end to any conspiracies right? Like he definitely would disclose aliens, JFK, etc...

I don't expect that and don't think the government knows anymore than the public when it comes to MOST ufo cases. However, there are some, like the Cash-Landrum Case, where I think it was likely a secret aircraft and they DO have info. This was a case where the witnesses suffered physical effects. One of the reasons I think it was one of ours is because a number of Chinooks were seen at the same time. There is speculation it was a secret craft making a test flight that they lost control of.
 
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