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Republicans for POTUS, 2016 Edition

In general democrats don't want republicans to get elected president. So they will often go with the candidate they think has the best chance of winning. Now, remove the word democrat and replace it with republican and vice versa. Both statements are equally true. Not sure what is hard to understand about that.
 
I don't understand why in a primary you wouldn't want a candidate that represents what you want as your nominee. Hillary isn't running against Jeb bush yet. She is running against other democrats.

There is a big difference. I just think it is sad all of you have pretty much accepted the inevitable even though none of you like her.
 
And we are voting for other democrats. What is your point?

Oh no! People are voting for primary candidates they don't think will win! Oh the horror!
 
Wrangor said:
I don't understand why in a primary you wouldn't want a candidate that represents what you want as your nominee. Hillary isn't running against Jeb bush yet. She is running against other democrats.

There is a big difference. I just think it is sad all of you have pretty much accepted the inevitable even though none of you like her.
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Alright, I'll admit it I think HRC is ok. Deceitful, sure but what politician isn't. What other Dem nominee am I going to vote for? A 75 year old self proclaimed socialist from a piddly little state in the northeast? Yeah the Dems have so much luck with that scenario.

If what FMR (Rube) says about there possibly being 3 supreme court nominations up in the next 4 years, there is no way in hell the Pubs need to be in charge when that happens.
 
Wrangor said:
I do t disagree with you FMR. My point all along is that people know Hillary is slippery. They know she lies. They know she hides. Yet they still support her simply because she has power. I saw her compared to Nixon and it is a pretty apt comparison.

Brilliant and talented politician. Very smart. But also incredibly deceptive. At what point does a lifetime of deception count? That is why I think she loses. Not sure if it happens in the primary or the GE, but Hillary is pretty much everything the democrats hate about republicans. Other than her power, I can't figure out why yall support her.

Most of the left on this board would say they don't like her, yet in the primary my bet is the large majority of you still vote for her. Why? If the electoral college advantage is as good as most of you make it out to be then it almost shouldn't matter who the D's run. The demographics are the same. Pubs still have a huge uphill road to climb regardless of who is on the ticket.
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What a cuntish post.

Hilary is an uber-cunt. No doubt. But you still made an epically cuntish post.


Just such a vile level of self-love in the post. "I would never vote for her because I see Hilary for what she is, and any Democrat that does vote for her is compromising their values as a person!"


Your avatar eyeroll isn't nearly fast enough for the bullshit you just posted, coach.
 
The majority of us on the board have already said we're voting for someone else in the primary. But unless the Pubs run Paul, which they won't, there is not another Pub in the field who is remotely worth voting for, and so yes, I'll hold my nose in the general and vote for Hillary. I vote based on policies, not personalities.

And I agree with dv7 that Wrangor is being cunty.
 
Wrangor said:
Outside of my grandmother, who loves Hillary Clinton, I have yet to find a single person in my entire swath of relationships that is fired up about Hillary. I have a family member that ran for governor in a state under the Democratic ticket, so that includes a very WIDE sample. Everyone says the same thing. We don't like her, but we will hold our nose and vote for her. That is a terrible principle.
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Please don't remind our Dem friends that they are compromising their values when they vote for Hillary. They don't like being reminded of that. dv7 will probably call you another name if you do it again.
 
cville deac said:
The majority of us on the board have already said we're voting for someone else in the primary. But unless the Pubs run Paul, which they won't, there is not another Pub in the field who is remotely worth voting for, and so yes, I'll hold my nose in the general and vote for Hillary. I vote based on policies, not personalities.

And I agree with dv7 that Wrangor is being cunty.
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I assume there are notable policy differences that cause you to prefer Webb, or Chaffee over Hillary.
 
Wrangor said:
What about Rand Paul? And Christie is definitely not worse than Clinton. He is extremely moderate (outside of not liking weed). Or you could choose Clinton, whose policies to be honest will mirror exactly what we have been doing the past two decades that hasn't been working. Everyone makes their own choices, I am just tired of hearing people complain about Washington and then elect the same families to run Washington. Expecting different results from the same action is insanity I hear.
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Because there is a huge difference between either and hrc with pubs controlling both houses of congress. See you would like alot of the social conservative bullshit legislation that wouldn't get vetoed by an R, but D's wouldn't. And hrc can actually win. Not sure what is so hard to understand. Idealism is a loser in November.
 
DeacWatcher said:
If what FMR (Rube) says about there possibly being 3 supreme court nominations up in the next 4 years, there is no way in hell the Pubs need to be in charge when that happens.
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If Ginsburg were purely politically motivated, she'd announce her retirement this Fall. Obama would then nominate another woman to replace her and let the 'Pubs destroy the nominee while the 2016 primaries play out. Just another chance for the GOP to alienate the single largest voting bloc in the electorate.

Imagine what kind of brawl would ensue if Scalia or Kennedy had to be replaced by Obama?
 
Second largest voting bloc. White voters are the largest bloc.

According to SCOTUS insiders I've heard, Ginsburg is very confident a Dem will be in the White House and has no plan to retire before 2016.

I'm sure Wrangor will complain about her accepting inevitability next.
 
Cville and dv7: Y'all do you. I try to find someone to vote for that hasn't proved they are intentionally untrustworthy. The "what politician isn't untrustworthy" is a pretty poor excuse. If that makes me a 4 letter word so be it.

And a liberal using a female body part as a directed character attack is sad. But because you like abortions I guess that makes you a women's right kind of person. Happy 4th to your hypocrisy sir.
 
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Shorty said:
I assume there are notable policy differences that cause you to prefer Webb, or Chaffee over Hillary.
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I favor switching to the metric system, was against the 2nd Iraq War and want to see us legalize pot, so yes. :D In the primary I tend to vote for whose policies I support most and who I like most. I like Chafee and Webb and am not a fan of the Clintons personally, though I do recognize Bill's political skill. Hillary is smart but lacks Bill's skill and charm. But when it gets to the general, and it's Hillary against a climate change denying, anti abortion, neocon, anti immigration, anti gay marriage, protect the rich, Fox loving, drill baby drill Pub, yeah, I'll vote for Hillary.
 
Christie and rand don't fit either of your preconceived definitions of hillarys opponent. What will you do if it is one of them?
 
cville deac said:
I favor switching to the metric system, was against the 2nd Iraq War and want to see us legalize pot, so yes. :D In the primary I tend to vote for whose policies I support most and who I like most. I like Chafee and Webb and am not a fan of the Clintons personally, though I do recognize Bill's political skill. Hillary is smart but lacks Bill's skill and charm. But when it gets to the general, and it's Hillary against a climate change denying, anti abortion, neocon, anti immigration, anti gay marriage, protect the rich, Fox loving, drill baby drill Pub, yeah, I'll vote for Hillary.
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A lot of people lack Bill's skill and charm. Hillary lacks Tom Sizemore's skill and charm, and lacks Lance Armstrong's integrity.

Would you vote for Mitt Romney or Hillary Clinton?
 
Wrangor said:
Christie and rand don't fit either of your preconceived definitions of hillarys opponent. What will you do if it is one of them?
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Yes they do.
 
GOP has a majority of the House and 54 seats in the Senate and can't pass anything on their own. They can't even force votes on the Senate. They'd be much closer to a filibuster proof majority if they hadn't nominated pure conservatives like the witch from Delaware during the Tea Party mania. The GOP went out of their way to crush Tea Party candidates in 2014 and regained the Senate. There's a pretty clear track record of how badly the GOP behaved between 2009 and now. Congress, completely controlled by the GOP, has a single digit approval rating. Hated Obama is at 50%.

Rand, Rubio, Jeb, and Kasich have to be pissed since HRC is extremely beatable, but the Tea Party base has destroyed the GOP brand and people no longer trust the GOP to govern. How is that Dems' or independents' fault?
 
FuckmouthedRube said:
If Ginsburg were purely politically motivated, she'd announce her retirement this Fall. Obama would then nominate another woman to replace her and let the 'Pubs destroy the nominee while the 2016 primaries play out. Just another chance for the GOP to alienate the single largest voting bloc in the electorate.

Imagine what kind of brawl would ensue if Scalia or Kennedy had to be replaced by Obama?
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Now that scenario would be hilarious if Scalia got sick or something and Obama got a shot to replace him. Imagine the madness...
 
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