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Tar Holes NOA from the NCAA

You're unsmart. It's not too late to give up on this account and create a new login. The numbers don't lie. If we could outspend them, we would be doing it already, but we're not. Even if our donors outspend 5-1, we're still behind because the bigger schools have more than 5 times the number of donors we have. Never mind that wealth is not something that only Wake Forest donors have, causing your 5-1 premise to be severely flawed from the start.



National powerhouse?

http://www.ogboards.com/forums/showthread.php/24856-Fundraising-Record-Year-!
 

One time donations for current construction projects are propping those numbers up. That doesn't represent anything sustainable or even begin to makeup for the revenue shortfall we have compared to bigger schools in our conference. It certainly doesn't represent us being able to outspend other schools 5 to 1.

In total, over $13.5 million in capital gifts and more than $21 million in new pledges were received in support of capital projects, including ten new gifts or commitments over $1 million and five new commitments of $2 million or more. The result of these generous capital contributions can be seen around campus. Significant progress has been made on the construction of the $21 million McCreary Field House, and work is underway on the Haddock Golf House, which is the final phase of the Arnold Palmer Golf Complex. Renovations to the Spry Stadium game field were completed this spring along with the first phase of permanent seating next to the Leighton Courts at the Wake Forest Tennis Complex. In addition, Faircloth said they are close to completing the fundraising necessary to break ground on the next phase of renovations at the Wake Forest Baseball Complex.
 
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Our boosters can outspend the country fried rubes 5-to-1 at every one of these schools except Duke and maybe Georgia Tech.

You spend your way out of the cellar. Paul Krugman has proven that time and time again.

While we sit here and slash our wrists, Duke, DUKE, is becoming a national powerhouse in football.

How do you figure that. They have had a couple of really nice seasons, still haven't won the ACC title and most mags have them going 7-5 this year, finishing 5th behind VT, GT, UNC & Pitt in whatever order you think those will finish. They might or might not finish ahead of Miami, depending on how Kaaya plays but should beat out UVa. Duke has lost their QB & WR's, several OL's and will have to resort to a running game early. They are helped by playing an OOC schedule like us & State, only they do not have to play Notre Dame. Their problem, like us is one of building depth. Now in the other sports except baseball, Duke seems to have figured it out.
 
Div II Eastern New Mexico University gets hammered:

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...university-probation-vacate-five-seasons-wins
NCAA enforcement staff found ENMU used 132 athletes in 12 different programs who were ineligible to practice or play during the 2008-09 through 2012-13 seasons.
ENMU will forfeit victories from 2008-13 in football, baseball, volleyball and men's and women's soccer.

The university also will forfeit wins in softball and men's and women's basketball from 2008-12, and vacate individual points and team awards in men's and women's cross country and track in various seasons.
 
Thank god UNC only has to worry about cheating in Women's Basketball.
 
Keep in mind that the UNC case is primarily about impermissible benefits and lack of institutional control. The NOA did not make any allegations about ineligible athletes. For UNC that was probably the biggest positive about a harsher than expected NOA.
 
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SMU President Gerald Turner criticized the harshness of the penalties, and without mentioning the University of North Carolina by name, said other schools facing NCAA investigations and/or infractions rulings must be "shaking in their boots" after seeing the sanctions handed SMU
 
Thats actually a really good ruling for anyone that wants to see UNC hammered. Pretty closer precedent and will have happened in a short time frame from the actual ruling against UNC.

True, but for people aware that UNC's case is being re-investigated and they are to be re-punished under the old rules, it is largely irrelevant. Here to help.
 
True, but for people aware that UNC's case is being re-investigated and they are to be re-punished under the old rules, it is largely irrelevant. Here to help.

LOL. The old rules were actually more vague on potential outcomes. About the only "win" with the old rules is that Roy's not automatically held responsible for the established cheating of his employees, but that's hardly a win as he's not going to stick around for the sanctions anyway. He'd be 70 by the time he was able to start cheating again.
 
True, but for people aware that UNC's case is being re-investigated and they are to be re-punished under the old rules, it is largely irrelevant. Here to help.

Accountability. Boot straps.
 
Define "re-punished".

UNC fans believe this was all taken care of back when they got a light hand slap for hiring an agent to coach their team, allowing agents to hang in their locker room, ignoring thousands upon thousands of dollars in cash, gifts and cars for their football players, and the discovery of fake papers and tutors who performed work for their players. Surely, if they did all of that and only got a hand slap they don't deserve any more punishment now that the largest academic fraud case that the NCAA has ever seen has been (partially) exposed, designed solely to keep basketball and football players eligible, starting with Dean Smith and continuing through present day. Surely.
 
Define "re-punished".

apparently he wants the ncaa to realize it's "double jeopardy" to "re-punish" so he thinks/hopes/prays/demands that the ncaa step away by saying they already punished under the old rules and it would not be right to punish them again. or delusion.
 
The NCAA has already imposed sanctions on the University of North Carolina, including forfeiting wins, scholarship restrictions and a postseason ban on its football team which kept it out of the 2012 ACC Championship Game, a berth UNC earned on the field of play with players not accused of any of the wrongdoing. This is the second investigation. These are the facts.
 
What punishment did the women's and men's basketball team receive? I don't care anything (or I could care less....[racerdeac]) about UNC football. They couldn't win with an agent on staff. Basketball seems to be pretty proficient at winning while they are cheating. Would like to see them pay the toll for their misdeeds.
 
What punishment did the women's and men's basketball team receive? I don't care anything (or I could care less....[racerdeac]) about UNC football. They couldn't win with an agent on staff. Basketball seems to be pretty proficient at winning while they are cheating. Would like to see them pay the toll for their misdeeds.

Not caring about football must make it easier to move the goal posts, amirite?
 
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