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F is for Fascism (Ferguson MO)

MysteryMen said:
I don't think that's just data from the Feds, they are just the ones collecting the data. There is no way in hell that federal law enforcement agencies are seizing $4 billion in burglary assets every year - not their area
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read the linked article, it's total federal asset forfeitures - not just forfeitures from burglaries which, as you point out, would be nonexistent. It's mostly forfeitures from alleged drug traffickers. Plenty of people on the right and left think the forfeitures practices of many law enforcement agencies should be reined in.
 
avalon said:
The Cop Shooting So Horrific It Cost $5 Million to Hide

A judge has ordered that the city must release the video of a police officer shooting a 17 year old 16 times.
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The cop who shot the kid is now gonna be charged with murder, a year after it happened and just a couple days before the video is released. Likewise, the CPD Supt. is recommending that an officer who killed a young girl in 2012 - firing into a crowd in a park while off duty. He was acquitted of murder, but recommended to be fired by a review board (one that never recommends that), yet still hadn't been fired. Both of these motherfuckers have been on the force after murdering individuals for a long ass time, but now that the judge ordered the release of the video the powers that be are making moves to try to prevent shit.

This is so fucked up beyond reason. I'mma be out there on the streets.
 
JuiceCrewAllStar said:
The cop who shot the kid is now gonna be charged with murder, a year after it happened and just a couple days before the video is released. Likewise, the CPD Supt. is recommending that an officer who killed a young girl in 2012 - firing into a crowd in a park while off duty. He was acquitted of murder, but recommended to be fired by a review board (one that never recommends that), yet still hadn't been fired. Both of these motherfuckers have been on the force after murdering individuals for a long ass time, but now that the judge ordered the release of the video the powers that be are making moves to try to prevent shit.

This is so fucked up beyond reason. I'mma be out there on the streets.
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Just to clarify, he wasn't acquitted of murder, he wasn't charged with murder. He was charged with involuntary manslaughter. The judge cleared him of the charges because involuntary manslaughter required proof of recklessness, and shooting intentionally into a crowd wasn't reckless. He said, if there was a crime, it was first degree murder. The prosecutor (intentionally?) undercharged / pressed the wrong charges.

But yeah, I'm with you on everything else. This video seems to be freaking out the people in charge. At least the freedom of information laws are having an impact.
 
Thanks for cleaning up my sloppy posting. The whole operation is so corrupt.

The city of Chicago had another round of appeals they could have gone through, but Rahm didn't pursue them after the latest judgement. My best guess is that they're trying to do it now on account of the Thanksgiving holiday and cold weather, hoping to reduce blowback. Their PR campaign with the (also corrupt, self-serving) South Side pastors is in full force. Video must be really bad.
 
what was the sheriff of nottingham's real job again?

police steal more than normal people? no way.
 
dmcheatw said:
what was the sheriff of nottingham's real job again?

police steal more than normal people? no way.
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While this isn't a real question, I'll answer it: in the UK, sheriff was traditionally the highest judicial office in the county. The sheriff of Nottingham would have been the King's chief juridical representative in the area. The word "sheriff" is a contraction of the Anglo-Saxon for "shire reeve".
 
he was all about tax collection, which is another version asset forfeiture. i dont give a shit about the etymology of the word. why is that not a real question?

you seem like a jerk honestly. It took me a long time to discern deacphan from wakepahn
 
i may have been hasty, the idea is the transfer of wealth, in one form or another, to the benfit of the govt. has always been govt. policy from the start of time, from any govt, and it's actually carried out by organizations that today are most closely equated with LEOs.

if we spar over this, i can support the original post that asset forfeiture is tantamount to tax collecting; which is the primary focus of local LEO back in Robinhood's days and now. it's an EZ argument, cuz it's true.

I'm cool w/big govt. btw., Just don't kid myself about anything.
 
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ImTheCaptain said:
hm, i'd agree only because the governed were not so by their consent
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The word consent is a curious one in that context. How does a natural born citizen "consent" to their government? Isn't consent a choice?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
The word consent is a curious one in that context. How does a natural born citizen "consent" to their government? Isn't consent a choice?
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well, they get the right to vote upon whatever legal age that is. So yeah, kids are governed by their parents and the state against their will but society tends to agree that's for their own damned good. now go clean your room.
 
dmcheatw said:
he was all about tax collection, which is another version asset forfeiture. i dont give a shit about the etymology of the word. why is that not a real question?

you seem like a jerk honestly. It took me a long time to discern deacphan from wakepahn
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Hahaha, dude, what the fuck? This thread is about police violence and you asked a question about Robin Hood. When I said it "wasn't a real question," I meant that I thought you were asking it as a rhetorical question, not because you really wanted to know about it. My response was a joke with some stupid trivia.

dmcheatw said:
which is the primary focus of local LEO back in Robinhood's days and now. it's an EZ argument, cuz it's true.
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Uh, Robin Hood is a fiction. Not real. I'm not sure that you should be basing your asset forfeiture hottakes on Robin Hood.
 
that is up for debate but medieval tax law and procedure is arguably relevant given the Brits do abide by some of their ancient laws
 
dmcheatw said:
he was all about tax collection, which is another version asset forfeiture. i dont give a shit about the etymology of the word
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Also, the reason I offered the etymology, which you so promptly dismissed, is because I was pushing back against your argument that Sheriffs were "local LEO". They were primarily county bureaucrats, and while their job duties did literally include, in part, "law enforcement," equating them with contemporary LEO and policing in the contemporary sense is too anachronistic to make for a helpful analogy.
 
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