ACA Running Thread

[jhmd2000]

Yeah it's a shame GOP put politics before people and wouldn't expand Medicaid.

*Inner monologue*

So my party rammed an unsustainable, unaffordable unpopular policy through Congress and SCOTUS without a single concurring vote from the other party. I got it! We'll blame it on the other party! Our failed policy is obviously their fault! Brilliant!

*/inner monologue*

 

[sailordeac]

When was it not?

before the federal government got involved in it?

 

[Deacfreak07]

before the federal government got involved in it?

Are you being serious?

 

[Deacon923]

 

[ChrisL68]

Leeches are cheap holmes

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[WFU71]

Yeah it's a shame GOP put politics before people and wouldn't expand Medicaid.

It's a shame that less than 30% of potential Obamacare millennials have signed up.

 

[Demonwolverine]

Yeah it's a shame GOP put politics before people and wouldn't expand Medicaid.

Some did. NPR used to report on those districts/areas from time to time, but those reports have gotten swallowed up over the course of the last year's absurdity. I'd be interested in an update politically and economically on the GOP leaders that chose to expand medicaid in their areas. My guess would be they're getting hammered politically, and I'm genuinely curious to hear how it's going economically.

 

[Deacon923]

I don't blame ACA's failures on Republicans, because it was a bad bill badly legislated and needs a lot of work to reform it. That aside, there is a very, very strong correlation between states that have not expanded Medicaid and states that have limited insurer choices on the exchanges. http://kff.org/health-reform/issue-brief/preliminary-data-on-insurer-exits-and-entrants-in-2017-affordable-care-act-marketplaces/

Given what is known at this time of entrants and exits, four additional states are likely to have a single marketplace insurer in all counties: Alabama, Alaska, Oklahoma, and South Carolina, for a total of five states (including Wyoming, which already had one insurer in the state). Other states with significantly more single-insurer counties in 2017 will likely include Arizona (87% of counties in 2017, compared to none in 2016), Mississippi (80% vs. 0%), Missouri (85% vs. 2%), Florida (73% vs. 0%), North Carolina (90% vs. 23%), and Tennessee (60% vs. 0%). With the exception of Alaska, the states left with the most limited exchange participation as a result of 2017 market exits are likely to be in the south.

There are some very nice interactive maps on that link that I cannot post here clearly showing the distribution of limited-access counties. Bad as the bill was and is, there is no denying that Medicaid expansion was a very important, integral part of the bill, and the Supreme Court's ruling that made it optional was serious blow to the ACA's efficacy in states that have opted out.

 

[Liquid Karma]

"Affordable" Care Act

 

[jhmd2000]

The goal is to get that over 50% by the time he leaves office.

I have the goal to be the King of France by the time Obama leaves office. Good luck to both of us.

 

[Deacon923]

"Affordable" Care Act

Right. The bill's impact on the budget is only beginning to be felt, and as insurers crank up their rates it's only going to get worse.

 

[jhmd2000]

Right. The bill's impact on the budget is only beginning to be felt, and as insurers crank up their rates it's only going to get worse.

She'll get the third term he didn't want. It's like the letter H.W. left Bill, except not a letter. It will be an invoice. Probably won't go viral.

 

[dot com]

without a single concurring vote from the other party

So like, every Democrat sponsored bill attempting to pass while the black guy is in office?
It would be notable if it weren't the standard response.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

so my wife scalded the fuck out of her arm a few weeks ago while pulling some hot soup out of the microwave. went to the ER to get checked and they ended up just wrapping her up with the same bandages.

Bill came today. $2,000.

But the real problem is the ACA

 

[Deacfreak07]

so my wife scalded the fuck out of her arm a few weeks ago while pulling some hot soup out of the microwave. went to the ER to get checked and they ended up just wrapping her up with the same bandages.

Bill came today. $2,000.

But the real problem is the ACA

Well yea, because I didn't scald my arm.

 

[jhmd2000]

so my wife scalded the fuck out of her arm a few weeks ago while pulling some hot soup out of the microwave. went to the ER to get checked and they ended up just wrapping her up with the same bandages.

Bill came today. $2,000.

But the real problem is the ACA

That sucks. High deductible plan?

 

[WFU71]

so my wife scalded the fuck out of her arm a few weeks ago while pulling some hot soup out of the microwave. went to the ER to get checked and they ended up just wrapping her up with the same bandages.

Bill came today. $2,000.

But the real problem is the ACA

Your wife doesn't have health insurance?

 

[jhmd2000]

Well yea, because I didn't scald my arm.

I didn't either. My premium for the month was still over $1,100.00. Free flu shot, though. #ThanksObama

 

[ImTheCaptain]

Your wife doesn't have health insurance?

of course we have health insurance, but that was what the hospital billed the health insurance company

I owe $125 after the HI paid $670 and the hospital "adjusted" away $1,200

 

[2&2 Slider To Leyritz]

so my wife scalded the fuck out of her arm a few weeks ago while pulling some hot soup out of the microwave. went to the ER to get checked and they ended up just wrapping her up with the same bandages.

Bill came today. $2,000.

But the real problem is the ACA

I mean, yeah it is. It did a great job of making that bill affordable, didn't it? Instead, treatment prices went up and insurance costs went up because of additional uncollectibility and another layer of administration, which is one of the greatest testaments to ineptitude in political history. The hospital has to bill you $2,000 for doing basically nothing because they get $0 from plenty of other patients who they have to do things for. Obamacare did a great job of addressing that problem, didn't it? Not to mention the absurd mandated "wellness" expenditures that the healthcare systems have to pay for yet have gotten absolutely no ROI on because there is no patient incentive to adhere to anything, so your bill for treatment goes up to cover that shit.

Plus the fact that you went to the ER instead of urgent care for a soup burn.