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Official '16-17 NBA Thread: not with a bang but a whimper

RJKarl said:
guess I was wrong...
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to be fair, hinkie never said shit to the press so it was never a national story, and he wasn't gonna throw ownership under the bus, but it has since been independently confirmed
 
As sixers fans, how do you feel about your franchise relative to these other franchises that found themselves in a similar situation as the Sixers pre-hinkie (mediocre with no superstar and no realistic chance to sign a top 15 player in free agency) during a similar time period?:

Bucks
Pistons
Hornets
Jazz
Suns
Nuggets
 
RChildress107 said:
As sixers fans, how do you feel about your franchise relative to these other franchises that found themselves in a similar situation as the Sixers pre-hinkie (mediocre with no superstar and no realistic chance to sign a top 15 player in free agency) during a similar time period?:

Bucks
Pistons
Hornets
Jazz
Suns
Nuggets
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Not a sixers fan, only Hinkie, but quite clearly the best future of this bunch. The sixers have by far the best future of any not currently elite team.
 
Jazz have done better than the Sixers
Suns are a mess
Bucks got Greek Freak and had a couple of other players. not sure about Kidd as a coach
Nuggets seem to find ways to lose. -don't worry about them becoming competitive
Pistons- Haven't built much around Drummond. Reggie Jackson was a bad signing.
Hornets- ownership/management mediocre-won't worry about them as Sixers get better
 
FckVwls said:
Not a sixers fan, only Hinkie, but quite clearly the best future of this bunch. The sixers have by far the best future of any not currently elite team.
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But that is part of the issue ... it is easy for a non-fan sitting thousands of miles away to say what they did worked (which again, it hasn't; they have one injury-plagued potential star and a bunch of question marks as they sit well below .500); it is different for the actual paying fans of the team to shell out a few grand a year to go to the games and watch them all on TV when they are absolute garbage. That is not enjoyment as a fan of a sports team.

It is very similar to Wake. We are semi-decent again, and you damn well know Ron Wellman is sitting in his office saying that his #process worked and was worth it. But for Wake fans, was the Bzztank worth it? Fuck no. We have endured 6+ years of shit and there is no guaranty that we're actually going to get better, just hope that we will because we seem to have some #assets in place (an NBA developed player to point to, decent recruiting momentum, solid team core, bubble conversation, etc.). As a fan I would have much more enjoyed being relevant during those 6 years, even though it probably would have resulted in the same lack of championships, than go through this shitshow, because there is still no guaranty that we are going to be decent. We might, just like the Sixers might, but in both cases it is mostly still hope.
 
Interestingly I find the righteous indignation from outsiders on behalf of non-fans to dwarf the actually anger of fans. Most (not all) Sixers' fans recognized this was a preferable route to the fight for a 7/8 seed in perpetuity path that they were on. Enthusiasm is high, and it was 3 years. I'm not a huge Colangelo fan so I am skeptical about that, but I'm very happy with the track (and I actually think the team is fun to watch this year - last year was a mess).
 
and Tankathon's latest Mock Draft has John Collins going #14 to the Bucks, and Giles going #17 to the Bulls
 
The person asked which franchise is best positioned. That answer is the Sixers, clearly. We don't need to get into if the lean years were worth it, that's been discussed a million times.

Also quite hilarious with the haters like "one potential star who is injured all the time." Okay maybe, but Embiid has a good chunk of equity to be the stone cold #1 player in the NBA in a few years. You guys can take KAT or whatever and I'll roll the dice with the higher ceiling.
 
RChildress107 said:
I'd take the Bucks for sure and maybe the Nuggets. I'd certainly take Giannis and Jokic over Embiid to build a franchise around.
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You'd be making a mistake. This top 10 in this year's draft is too loaded.
 
For the 22 and unders, Giannis > Embiid > Joker > KAT for me. But the Bucks don't have enough else going on to have a better outlook than Philly
 
Eagles_Legendz said:
Interestingly I find the righteous indignation from outsiders on behalf of non-fans to dwarf the actually anger of fans. Most (not all) Sixers' fans recognized this was a preferable route to the fight for a 7/8 seed in perpetuity path that they were on. Enthusiasm is high, and it was 3 years. I'm not a huge Colangelo fan so I am skeptical about that, but I'm very happy with the track (and I actually think the team is fun to watch this year - last year was a mess).
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FckVwls said:
The person asked which franchise is best positioned. That answer is the Sixers, clearly. We don't need to get into if the lean years were worth it, that's been discussed a million times.

Also quite hilarious with the haters like "one potential star who is injured all the time." Okay maybe, but Embiid has a good chunk of equity to be the stone cold #1 player in the NBA in a few years. You guys can take KAT or whatever and I'll roll the dice with the higher ceiling.
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Though this was a good summary:

 
FckVwls said:
For the 22 and unders, Giannis > Embiid > Joker > KAT for me. But the Bucks don't have enough else going on to have a better outlook than Philly
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Middleton and Parker aren't nothing. Also hard to put Embiid above the Joker considering that Jokic is a year younger, has played better than Embiid this year and has two working legs.
 
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