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2017 College Basketball Coaching Carousel (Matta out at Ohio State)

I am super confused... did it come out like ten days ago that they were keeping him??

I guess Michael Porter Sr was hired by Cuonzo Martin / Mizzou and that left no reason to keep Romar?
 
Washington fans don't realize you're supposed to keep bad coaches for recruiting purposes.
 
Lot of smoke that Archie is interested in the NCSU job and that if he decides to turn us down it will come down to Wade or Keatts and no farther than that. Either would come to NCSU from the info i've heard from people who should know. Will be interesting to see how those three fair in the NCAA tourney. Would be perfect from an NCSU perspective if Wichita State knocks Archie out first round, allows NCSU to take our shot with him and then move quickly on to one of the others. The more I read/research on Keatts the more I wouldn't mind it "falling" to him.
 
tau06 said:
Lot of smoke that Archie is interested in the NCSU job and that if he decides to turn us down it will come down to Wade or Keatts and no farther than that. Either would come to NCSU from the info i've heard from people who should know. Will be interesting to see how those three fair in the NCAA tourney. Would be perfect from an NCSU perspective if Wichita State knocks Archie out first round, allows NCSU to take our shot with him and then move quickly on to one of the others. The more I read/research on Keatts the more I wouldn't mind it "falling" to him.
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Brain says Keatts, gut says Archie
 
tau06 said:
Lot of smoke that Archie is interested in the NCSU job and that if he decides to turn us down it will come down to Wade or Keatts and no farther than that. Either would come to NCSU from the info i've heard from people who should know. Will be interesting to see how those three fair in the NCAA tourney. Would be perfect from an NCSU perspective if Wichita State knocks Archie out first round, allows NCSU to take our shot with him and then move quickly on to one of the others. The more I read/research on Keatts the more I wouldn't mind it "falling" to him.
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Keatts is scary to me. He has done amazing things at UNCW and has great recruiting experience under Pitino (plus HS connections from his time leading a nationally relevant program).

I hope Childress throws his name in the hat for the UNCW and / or Winthrop jobs when / if they open. Both should be good situations for him to develop as a head coach. I hope Danny and Wellman encourage him to move beyond MSD.
 
The initial "Archie would never go there" backlash has run it's course and it has picked up a little more steam in the past few days that he actually is interested for whatever reason. We will see. The talk on Keatts is that he is just going to crush it in recruiting if he gets a major job in the ACC. Ton of connections and knows everyone. Would make Gott's recruiting look pedestrian is what people are saying. This coaching cycle is going to see a ton of money flying around that's going to make it really interesting.
 
I don't follow national recruiting anymore so I'm catching up. The Porters are from Columbia but moved to Seattle when Romar hired their dad, a long time friend, who was a Mizzou women's asst coaching his daughters. Now Martin is going to Mizzou and hired away their dad and they're going to go back home.

Did I get it right? That's nuts.
 
PhDeac said:
I don't follow national recruiting anymore so I'm catching up. The Porters are from Columbia but moved to Seattle when Romar hired their dad, a long time friend, who was a Mizzou women's asst coaching his daughters. Now Martin is going to Mizzou and hired away their dad and they're going to go back home.

Did I get it right? That's nuts.
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Well, it isn't confirmed that they are going to Mizzou, but that seems to be where this is headed.

Not exactly sure how this is with NCAA rules. FWIW, he was the highest paid assistant coach on UW's staff by $100k, despite having no experience coaching men. He also made almost $150k as an assistant on the Mizzou women's team... which seems like a lot (but I have no clue if it is or not).
 
What part of that would be illegal?
 
PhDeac said:
What part of that would be illegal?
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I mean it is pretty shady to hire the father of a recruit and pay him $100k more than someone with 20 years of experience.

Apparently it is within rules as long as it is a coaching position, not an administrative position.
 
WFU Lurker said:
I mean it is pretty shady to hire the father of a recruit and pay him $100k more than someone with 20 years of experience.

Apparently it is within rules as long as it is a coaching position, not an administrative position.
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Not sure of the salary part but that's essentially what Larry Brown did when recruiting Danny Manning to Kansas. Manning's dad played in the NBA w/ Brown but had no prior coaching exp when hired to Kansas' staff.
 
WFU Lurker said:
I mean it is pretty shady to hire the father of a recruit and pay him $100k more than someone with 20 years of experience.

Apparently it is within rules as long as it is a coaching position, not an administrative position.
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Definitely shady. Not illegal though.
 
2017 College Basketball Coaching Carousel (Mizzou fires Andersen)

WFU Lurker said:
Well, of course it isn't against actual laws. But it probably should be against NCAA rules. In my opinion.
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What specifically should be against NCAA rules? Hiring the relative of a prospect? Paying assistants above or below a certain rate?
 
PhDeac said:
What specifically should be against NCAA rules? Hiring the relative of a prospect? Paying assistants above or below a certain rate?
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Hiring recruits' guardians and AAU/high school coaches is a pretty clear conflict of interest. I'm neither a lawyer nor an NCAA bureaucrat so I'll leave the details to those folks, but I don't feel like this is a particularly controversial opinion.
 
2017 College Basketball Coaching Carousel (Mizzou fires Andersen)

So AAU and high school coaches and coaches who happen to have relatives who are good at sports can't move up the ladder?

Shady? Sure. But how much should the NCAA regulate coaching hires? Should Randolph have been forced to step away from coaching under Brandon finished school?
 
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