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Game of Thrones - House of the Dragon - (and beyond) Discussion (spoilers allowed)

EatLeadCommie said:
Oh it was certainly put in there for a reason and-- at least for the viewer-- to make it even more obvious as to Jon's origins. I was just pointing out that we didn't necessarily have any indication the entry contained more details. Probably did based on what she said prior to reading it, but I found it odd that the part she actually read didn't name the person to whom he was married.
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I haven't seen anyone mention this, but Gilly read the whole passage - and apparently has a great memory when it comes to these things.

The end of that exchange was intentional - Sam misstates "shits" instead of "steps" -- the show writers intentionally had Gilly demonstrate that she remembered the information she read. Get ready for Gilly to drop a knowledge bomb on Dragonstone.
 
TheTwinAndreBen said:
If they are going to kings landing (Which btw this whole plan is fucking hella stupid, just burn KL, drain the swamp, and then fight the dead), it would make sense for the hound to be the zombie they drag back and then it is zombie hound vs Mountain for the Clegaannneeee Booooowl.
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Whats Qurburn (sp) going to do with the walker Jon gives Cersi?
 
Clegane Bowl is overhyped. Brienne beat the Hound. Let her have a shot at the Mountain. Or Arya since she just out-sparred Brienne. Hound is like 4th in line, at best, to be able to take on the Mountain at this point. Red Viper's reanimated crushed skull is clearly 3rd.



Also, wouldn't Dany still have say over Jon for the Iron Throne? She was a direct child of the Mad King and Jon was just a grandson, correct? Or do they say old living male heir no matter if child or grandchild?
 
Eagles_Legendz said:
100%. Just posted this somewhere else but my problem with the season so far is it feels like the scenes are being constructed in service of end points of plots. We want to get to A B & C by the end of the year, so we need to have scenes D E & F. In the past, the show felt like it was about D E & F. Now those scenes are truncated. We need Arya and Sansa to be at odds, but we don't have time to spend on it, so lets try to do it in three scenes. We need to get north of the wall, lets have a 90 second Jaime/Tyrion scene that should've been 8 minutes. We want to send Jorah there, lets get him cured and introduce him to Dany and ship him back off in the very same episode (while completely whiffing on the great potential of Jorah sharing with Jon and Dany that Sam cured him; for Jon, it would have one meaning & for Dany it would have potentially presented a moral issue right after she roasted Sam's family alive). It's my favorite show on TV...I just think they're missing the point on some of the legwork that needs to be done to organically drive plot & conflict this year.
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This is spot on. It's not that they are zipping around that's the problem, it's that all of the motivations and decisions feel rushed.
 
DeacsATS said:
There are only 2 ways (not mutually exclusive) in which this terrible plan makes sense from the perspective of someone running the show:

1- As mentioned a few times above, one of the guys on the trip "volunteers" to be killed and taken back to KL. Jorah and/or the Hound make the most sense.
2- Bringing one of the army of the dead back to KL leads to a "zombie outbreak" there and accelerates the story a bit (instead of waiting for the entire army to march south).
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Is that how it works? I thought the Night King has to raise the dead, not that you automatically become a wight if you're killed by one.
 
Just saw an epic spoiler. Shits gonna get real
 
deacvision7 said:
Also, wouldn't Dany still have say over Jon for the Iron Throne? She was a direct child of the Mad King and Jon was just a grandson, correct? Or do they say old living male heir no matter if child or grandchild?
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Pretty sure it's like the British line of succession. You continue down the oldest male's lineage until no heir remains. (i.e. the same way Prince William is higher in the succession than Prince Andrew or Prince Edward)
 
OblongPickle said:
Pretty sure it's like the British line of succession. You continue down the oldest male's lineage until no heir remains. (i.e. the same way Prince William is higher in the succession than Prince Andrew or Prince Edward)
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Lol. Never even made that comparison in my head. Good call.
 
The new episode is watchable if you have a HBO Spain account.

For some reason people in Spain can't figure out how to record it and upload it. They keep putting up streams on YouTube and twitch that get taken down.
 
That link is dead but the show's not hard to find if you look around the deep dark recesses of the Internet.

I felt dirty, but I did watch it just to avoid potential spoilers. I'll definitely give HBO a legit view on Sunday, it's worth a second viewing, to say the least.
 
Pretty sure HBO is just trolling at this point and allowing leaks to happen as the previous episode that leaked set the audience record (at the time) so they don't fear people not watching on Sunday.
 
ChaosDeac said:
Pretty sure HBO is just trolling at this point and allowing leaks to happen as the previous episode that leaked set the audience record (at the time) so they don't fear people not watching on Sunday.
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I've watched it and will still watch Sunday.
 
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