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Big 5 conference money disparity could lead to a shake up with the Big 12

Newest & latest discussion have involved Notre Dame & Texas stepping up to the plate to "join" the ACC as fulltime members, giving up part of their NBC & ESPN Longhorn network monies to be fulltime members with football. This would give the ACC the first 16 team conference and a huge footprint into Texas. It would also help circumvent being swallowed up by the SEC & Big 10 who already have prosperous networks, with the ACC network going nowhere so far. All this was in the future per a college football analyst on College Sirius this morning with Childers & Neuheisel, but he said discussions have taken place with the ACC--he confirmed that.
 
Why would ND and Texas give up their TV deals, especially ND? It would make more sense for a full-time ND to lead to a TV deal with the ACC in which NBC broadcast ACC games in the 3:30 and guaranteeing them every ND home game. That would put ACC on NBC up against the CBS SEC game every week.
 
Wait ... hold on ... Arizona St has a hockey team? A real team - not just a club team?
 
TheReff said:
Newest & latest discussion have involved Notre Dame & Texas stepping up to the plate to "join" the ACC as fulltime members, giving up part of their NBC & ESPN Longhorn network monies to be fulltime members with football. This would give the ACC the first 16 team conference and a huge footprint into Texas. It would also help circumvent being swallowed up by the SEC & Big 10 who already have prosperous networks, with the ACC network going nowhere so far. All this was in the future per a college football analyst on College Sirius this morning with Childers & Neuheisel, but he said discussions have taken place with the ACC--he confirmed that.
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Interesting. CBS Sports was reporting yesterday about the trustees at OU being reluctant to expand and Texas being coy about where they stood. Parting for the ACC would open up OU to jump to the SEC, whether or not they allow little brother to go. KU and KSU go to the Big 10. ISU, Baylor, TCU, TTU, and WVU all left holding their dicks. Pac 12 might try to poach a few to expand their footprint.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
Interesting. CBS Sports was reporting yesterday about the trustees at OU being reluctant to expand and Texas being coy about where they stood. Parting for the ACC would open up OU to jump to the SEC, whether or not they allow little brother to go. KU and KSU go to the Big 10. ISU, Baylor, TCU, TTU, and WVU all left holding their dicks. Pac 12 might try to poach a few to expand their footprint.
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Who would the SEC choose to pair with OU? OSU?

None of the remaining Big 12 schools would help the SEC's profile; it's all about expanding markets, but with A&M, the SEC already has a foothold in Texas. I would think that Mizzou would want to bring in KU, but not sure if the Kansas legislature would allow KU and KSU to split.
 
Pilchard said:
Who would the SEC choose to pair with OU? OSU?

None of the remaining Big 12 schools would help the SEC's profile; it's all about expanding markets, but with A&M, the SEC already has a foothold in Texas. I would think that Mizzou would want to bring in KU, but not sure if the Kansas legislature would allow KU and KSU to split.
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The SEC would take OU in a heartbeat. Another blueblood football program for the conference with fans all over the country who travel well. So what if OKC isn't a big market. OSU might just be a part of the package, but no OU fans care if they come along or not. The only sad thing is this might effectively kill OU-TX. OU-NU was already killed from joining this god forsaken conference, so I guess everything else might as well die with it.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
Interesting. CBS Sports was reporting yesterday about the trustees at OU being reluctant to expand and Texas being coy about where they stood. Parting for the ACC would open up OU to jump to the SEC, whether or not they allow little brother to go. KU and KSU go to the Big 10. ISU, Baylor, TCU, TTU, and WVU all left holding their dicks. Pac 12 might try to poach a few to expand their footprint.
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Big 10 won't take KSU. Kansas alone delivers the entire state. No need to dilute the product by adding KSU too.
 
None of the SEC schools are really in great markets, but they dominate football on TV. It is about quality and compelling match-ups.
 
DeaconForever said:
Big 10 won't take KSU. Kansas alone delivers the entire state. No need to dilute the product by adding KSU too.
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Perhaps, but again does KU have a choice to part for greener passengers without their little brother? And if not KSU, who do they take? WVU? It would make sense, but I'd think academics would be an issue there, but maybe not.
 
awaken said:
None of the SEC schools are really in great markets, but they dominate football on TV. It is about quality and compelling match-ups.
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Which is why OU and OSU make better pickups than OU and KU or KU and KSU.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
Interesting. CBS Sports was reporting yesterday about the trustees at OU being reluctant to expand and Texas being coy about where they stood. Parting for the ACC would open up OU to jump to the SEC, whether or not they allow little brother to go. KU and KSU go to the Big 10. ISU, Baylor, TCU, TTU, and WVU all left holding their dicks. Pac 12 might try to poach a few to expand their footprint.
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Yes, UT is being very coy about their plans and the house is divided at OU apparently. From the intel the guy was giving this morning, he even said that it was not necessarily a done deal from a legislative standpoint that OU & Ok St had to go together in anything. [from SB Nation a few years ago the point to understand is OU and OSU are in two separate systems. What one does is not governed by the other. They are completely separate!] What has also been said out there is that due to the drastically falling price of oil, the university system for OK [again there is a separate system for OK St] has said they might want them to get to where they are fully independent and paying for themselves, so anything bigger and better from athletics and conference realignment would drastically help since the B12 is only paying around $22+ mill and the SEC/B10 are both paying around $37 mill per school. And their studies show it will grow to over $20 mill disparity within 12 years.

So while the ACC getting Texas & ND fully would be a great coup, it would rest partly on them giving some of their TV revenue to the conference to share. The B10 will soon have their mega-deal done with Fox for bball & football so who knows how much more money that will bring them. The SEC has CBS. Maybe the ACC can score big with the help of Notre Dame and get an NBC deal done and split 1/2 & 1/2 with ESPN before they totally go bust.
 
EatLeadCommie said:
Perhaps, but again does KU have a choice to part for greener passengers without their little brother? And if not KSU, who do they take? WVU? It would make sense, but I'd think academics would be an issue there, but maybe not.
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The Big 10 won't go anywhere that isn't a major media market or to a school that isn't a national brand. That's why they went for the cash grab of Rutgers (New York) and Maryland in the last round. If they can't get ND, which looks doubtful, I think they would prefer to expand south. Assuming they can't poach any other ACC schools, I don't know what Big 10 expansion looks like. Texas and Oklahoma would make sense if they could pull it off. Oklahoma's academics are not good though.
 
DeaconForever said:
The Big 10 won't go anywhere that isn't a major media market or to a school that isn't a national brand. That's why they went for the cash grab of Rutgers (New York) and Maryland in the last round. If they can't get ND, which looks doubtful, I think they would prefer to expand south. Assuming they can't poach any other ACC schools, I don't know what Big 10 expansion looks like. Texas and Oklahoma would make sense if they could pull it off. Oklahoma's academics are not good though.
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No, but they aren't terrible either and have improved leaps and bounds under Boren. They are one spot behind Nebraska in the USNWR rankings (5, technically, but a lot of schools tied at 103 and 108). AAU is the big thing with the Big 10, and Nebraska still isn't a member, nor is OU.
 
I would love to see UNC and UT battle for political supremacy in the ACC. :popcorn:
 
awaken said:
I would love to see UNC and UT battle for political supremacy in the ACC. :popcorn:
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Wake has had close ties to UNC for more than a century. Texas would treat Wake worse than the conference mates it ditched in the SWC.
 
WakeForestRanger said:
Wake has had close ties to UNC for more than a century. Texas would treat Wake worse than the conference mates it ditched in the SWC.
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Worse than the way UT treated Rice? May not be possible. But TCU, who got ditched, regrouped and has since thrived. And actually Rice has been better off as far as some sports including football since and after the SWC ditched them because they had not been to a bowl in 45 years [1961-2006] and have now been to 5 bowl games, winning 3 of them.
 
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