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They have really screwed teams that like to spend money. So you can't get creative in the draft, international free agency, or spend big on free agency. Way to ruin your league rich old guys. Gonna be great when all the teams suck like the NFL
 
Well investing heavily in scouting will still be a big advantage with a hard cap system. Not as much incentive to tank with the new draft pools, as there doesn't appear to be the same major advantage of being a top 3 to 5 pick.

Did nothing end up happening with service games? Haven't seen anything on that and it was a big topic heading into the offseason.
 
rjequalsmj said:
They have really screwed teams that like to spend money. So you can't get creative in the draft, international free agency, or spend big on free agency. Way to ruin your league rich old guys. Gonna be great when all the teams suck like the NFL
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It's funny how many different takes I've already heard about the CBA as some have specifically said this CBA helps the rich teams like the Yankees and Red Sox. Like most agreements with nuanced changes, it will take a couple of years to determine the types of teams that are significantly helped or hurt by the new CBA. For years, baseball has had the most diverse set of teams that play on the highest of level of any of the major sports despite the perception that MLB's system is the least "socialistic".
 
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It's funny how many different takes I've already heard about the CBA as some have specifically said this CBA helps the rich teams like the Yankees and Red Sox. Like most agreements with nuanced changes, it will take a couple of years to determine the types of teams that are significantly helped or hurt by the new CBA. For years, baseball has had the most diverse set of teams that play on the highest of level of any of the major sports despite the perception that MLB's system is the least "socialistic".
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For all the socialism handwringing, kinda odd that international soccer is wide open free market competition and US pro sports are much more regulated.

Big market (Yankees, Dodgers, Mets), well run (Cardinals), or both (Cubs, Giants, Red Sox) have the highest probability of winning consistently. At the other end of the spectrum, has to be painful for fans of small to mid market teams saddled with shitty contracts (Pujols, Greinke, Braun, Votto, Verlander, Stanton).

Surprisingly still some "reasonable" contracts for superstars (Bum, Sale, Posey, McCutchen, Trout). Harper's long term deal will blow up some franchise. ARod's ridiculous deal messed up two franchises.
 
FuckmouthedRube said:
For all the socialism handwringing, kinda odd that international soccer is wide open free market competition and US pro sports are much more regulated.

Big market (Yankees, Dodgers, Mets), well run (Cardinals), or both (Cubs, Giants, Red Sox) have the highest probability of winning consistently. At the other end of the spectrum, has to be painful for fans of small to mid market teams saddled with shitty contracts (Pujols, Greinke, Braun, Votto, Verlander, Stanton).

Surprisingly still some "reasonable" contracts for superstars (Bum, Sale, Posey, McCutchen, Trout). Harper's long term deal will blow up some franchise. ARod's ridiculous deal messed up two franchises.
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Picking nits, but Pujols plays in the second biggest market in the country. The Angels just happen to be one of, if not THE, worst run teams in baseball.

Would be crazy to see guys like McCutchen, Braun, and Verlander all get traded in the same winter.
 
Verlander had a good claim to the Cy Young this year in the AL, so I wouldn't necessarily call his contract shitty, though it still obviously has the potential to be.

ETA: I have been complaining about his contract for a couple years before this season, full disclosure.
 
Starting pitchers' contracts can be nightmares. Giants have Bum and Moore on very club friendly terms, but if Cueto doesn't opt out after 2017 that becomes a shitty contract. Samardzija's deal is crappy too for a guy expected to be a solid number 3, but they made up for it by trading for Moore.

McClendon's contract ($s and years) make sense for the right contender. Verlander might make sense for someone desperate at the trading deadline. Only really rich dumb ass teams would trade for Braun or Greinke right now.
 
FuckmouthedRube said:
For all the socialism handwringing, kinda odd that international soccer is wide open free market competition and US pro sports are much more regulated.

Big market (Yankees, Dodgers, Mets), well run (Cardinals), or both (Cubs, Giants, Red Sox) have the highest probability of winning consistently. At the other end of the spectrum, has to be painful for fans of small to mid market teams saddled with shitty contracts (Pujols, Greinke, Braun, Votto, Verlander, Stanton).

Surprisingly still some "reasonable" contracts for superstars (Bum, Sale, Posey, McCutchen, Trout). Harper's long term deal will blow up some franchise. ARod's ridiculous deal messed up two franchises.
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The Yankees won a World Series and A-Rod majorly out preformed the initial contract. It's the second one they gave him that they negotiated against themselves that was terrible.
 
Pilchard said:
It's funny how many different takes I've already heard about the CBA as some have specifically said this CBA helps the rich teams like the Yankees and Red Sox. Like most agreements with nuanced changes, it will take a couple of years to determine the types of teams that are significantly helped or hurt by the new CBA. For years, baseball has had the most diverse set of teams that play on the highest of level of any of the major sports despite the perception that MLB's system is the least "socialistic".
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That's because in baseball it is harder for any one player or small set of players to dominate the game. And no particular position has an outsized impact on every game. MadBam is awesome but he only takes the ball every 5th game. The best hitters still are confined by batting order, etc. The QB touches the ball every snap. The best player in the NBA takes a ton of shots every night, etc.
 
DeacMan said:
That's because in baseball it is harder for any one player or small set of players to dominate the game. And no particular position has an outsized impact on every game. MadBam is awesome but he only takes the ball every 5th game. The best hitters still are confined by batting order, etc. The QB touches the ball every snap. The best player in the NBA takes a ton of shots every night, etc.
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except in the playoffs when the guy throws CGs in day/night double-headers
 
#blessed to have some cub fan insight here
 
Holliday to the Yanks.

Stros lineup is gonna have some pop this year with Beltran, Reddick and McCann added onto that core. Am I wrong or wasn't it the regression of their pitchers that hurt them last year?
 
There's something to be said for keeping Bonds, et al out of the HOF, but not batting an eye when letting Selig in.
 
Rich Hill getting 3/$48 is kinda bananas.
 
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