cheeseheads12
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State of which program?
State played 2.5 weeks worth of minutes in five days and they were fine. I don't think it's conditioning. It's effort and motivation.I have seen a lot of comments about our starters wearing out at the end of the year due to lack of depth and I don’t buy it. Carolina’s starters play virtually the same amount of minutes per game as ours. Now I guess you can argue that we have a big drop off in our bench players but I don’t think our starters playing too many minutes vs other quality programs is the concern.
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We also need a head coach who has the key skill necessary to build a tournament level program and win championships: in-game coaching.Our play in the last 2 weeks of those seasons dictated our fate. We were every bit as good as numerous NCAA teams and HAD the resume but blew it down the stretch. If you told me after Duke that we were going to beat Clemson there was no way we'd miss the tournament. But somehow we did.
I think the portal strategy does work, but we lack depth and that is causing the fall off. So we need a slight modification to also find bench players in the portal in addition to what we have been getting,
I agree that it's not a conditioning issue. However, playing fewer players does make it easier to scout us, which could lead to more losses at the end of the year when there is more tape available to review.State played 2.5 weeks worth of minutes in five days and they were fine. I don't think it's conditioning. It's effort and motivation.
Go Deacs!
Only 40% of the players in the starting rotation were returnees. Three of the five were new to Wake Forest.The whole narrative of the OP is also a little off-base. This year, we returned roughly 55% of both our scoring and minutes from the 22-23 season. Sure, Sallis and Reid were big transfers, but it isn't like this year's team started from scratch by any stretch of the imagination.
Go Deacs!
Yeah the “Lower Left Bracket” I did find a little awkwardly phrasedThey ought to name the bracket's after the #1 Seed. So the Wake Forest Bracket, the Seton Hall Bracket, the Villanova Bracket, and the Larry Nerd Bracket
That being said, under no circumstance is it ever okay to want UNC Cheat to win. And I mean ever.Yep, the only good takeaways from State winning that I can possibly come up with:
- Carolina lost a championship they should have won to an arch rival, and Wolfpack fans will likely (and irrationally) taunt them with this fact mercilessly and endlessly
- It should light a fire under our program to see a chief rival go out and take what they wanted
- There should never again be a fatigue excuse. Play five days in a row, knock out the top three seeds, fight through your alleged fatigue, and claim the crown.
That being said, I H8ST8
How about their superior talent in the starting 5?I have seen a lot of comments about our starters wearing out at the end of the year due to lack of depth and I don’t buy it. Carolina’s starters play virtually the same amount of minutes per game as ours. Now I guess you can argue that we have a big drop off in our bench players but I don’t think our starters playing too many minutes vs other quality programs is the concern.
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I agree that it's not a conditioning issue. However, playing fewer players does make it easier to scout us, which could lead to more losses at the end of the year when there is more tape available to review.
Only 40% of the players in the starting rotation were returnees. Three of the five were new to Wake Forest.
Our administration and fans are the kings of using circumstances that virtually every team experiences to rationalize our own continued failures and justify actively supporting the continuance of those failures. Covid, the portal, NIL, family health issues; we're the only school that has had to deal with any of those factors. None of the 64 (or 68 depending on your view) teams who made the tournament this season, or any of the previous 15 seasons, has had to deal with any of that. Four more years of Forbes! Everything is out of his control!Cool. That isn't unusual for college basketball today. NC State and UNC also only had starting rotations comprised 40% of returnees.
% of Points Returned 22-23 to 23-24
Duke - 78%
Clemson - 61%
Wake Forest - 55%
North Carolina - 46%
NC State - 40%
Virginia - 28%
You can blame a lot of things on our failure this year, but experienced returned should not be one of them.
Our administration and fans are the kings of using circumstances that virtually every team experiences to rationalize our own continued failures and justify actively supporting the continuance of those failures. Covid, the portal, NIL, family health issues; we're the only school that has had to deal with any of those factors. None of the 64 (or 68 depending on your view) teams who made the tournament this season, or any of the previous 15 seasons, has had to deal with any of that. Four more years of Forbes! Everything is out of his control!