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Totally Unofficial 2015/16 Premier League Thread (NWT)

deacvision7 said:
To put that kit deal into perspective...


Forbes currently lists Liverpool Football Club's entire value at 456 mil GBP.
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So wait....Adidas could have purchased Liverpool's entire club, but chose to buy some shirts for Man Utd for 10 years?
 
Dundee United 2 - 0 Manchester City


Gotta love preseason football. Please, please don't bet on these games, people.
 
Joe Royle back at Everton! His job is to help transition academy players up to first team quality it sounds like.
 
DeaconSlim2.0 said:
So wait....Adidas could have purchased Liverpool's entire club, but chose to buy some shirts for Man Utd for 10 years?
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deacvision7 said:
Joe Royle back at Everton! His job is to help transition academy players up to first team quality it sounds like.
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Awesome. Granted it was 50 years ago, but he debuted as a 16 year old for Everton. Perfect position for him.
 
Credit to the Glazers and their team for bringing in such a ridiculous amount of money for wearing a football kit and having a logo on it... 75 mil from adidas + 49 mil from Chevy/GM each season starting in 2015/16.


Andy Green ‏@andersred 6h
 Adidas paying 3x Nike's old deal to @ManUtd
Adds 12% to @manutd's revenue (using est 2013/14) figure
Adds 39% to @ManUtd's EBITDA (using est 2013/14 figure)
Nice boost to @ManUtd finances after last season's debacle left a £30-40m Champions League shaped hole.
Debt story pretty much over at @ManUtd now. Annual interest bill c. £20m.
Debt clearly held back transfer spending up until last year = legacy of weak, ageing squad whilst others strengthened.
People asking what I meant on @manutd debt. Interest bill used to soak up 70% of profits each year, now down to c. 15%.
Let's be clear. Underinvestment at @ManUtd caused by £600m cost of debt so far ---> last season's debacle. Club thankfully now spending.
 
BillBrasky said:
Underinvestment? Get out of here with that BS.
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During the 8 years immediately following the Glazers taking over (05/06 thru 12/13) Manchester United on average had a net spend of less than 13 million pounds a season.

Then a jump of a net spend of 66.7 mil last season and already a net of 51.6 this season, which will only go up from here by all indications.



At a club that is one of the richest sporting entities in the entire world, spending under 13 mil/season on average over 8 years on squad improvement is serious underinvestment.
 
and ManUnited has bought whoever they wanted whenever they wanted. the idea that they haven't invested in the team is absurd.
 
will be interesting to see what happens with Barcelona when their Nike deal is up. Nike seems to be getting out of the major club shirt business, all the top dawgs are now at Adidas it appears.
 
fuheel said:
and ManUnited has bought whoever they wanted whenever they wanted. the idea that they haven't invested in the team is absurd.
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Oh really?

Lucas Moura, Cesc Fabregas, Alexis Sanchez (when he went to Barca), Ander Herrera (last summer), Jon Obi Mikel (thank fuck!), Gareth Bale (twice), Ronaldinho (when he went to Barca), hell even Alan Shearer didn't come to United twice in the 90s. I'm sure there are many others that I just didn't think of off the top of my head, but to suggest that United just point to a player, grunts, and that player signs is just wrong.
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...akeover-by-Malcolm-Glazer-and-his-family.html
The full extent of the rebuilding job facing Louis van Gaal at Manchester United is borne out by the Glazer family spending more on servicing the club’s debt than on new players since completing their leveraged takeover in May 2005.

In total, over £680m has gone towards interest fees, bank charges and debt repayment, with £382.9m being invested on players - from the £2m signing of Edwin van der Sar a month after the takeover to the £37.1m purchase of club record buy Juan Mata in January.
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So add in £27m for Shaw and £29m for Ander and that amount spent on players is now £438.9, or just 64.5% of what had been paid towards the debt that the Glazers threw onto the club in 2005.

To act like the debt hasn't impacted the club and its activity in the transfer market is just foolish and wrong. That seems to finally be changing since last summer and hopefully they make up for lost time this summer.
 
I mean, it may be less than the money spent servicing debt, but 438 million GBP isn't chump change.

And to like, 16 of the current EPL clubs, it looks a lot like bitchy whining compared to what they've been able to invest.
 
United have higher aspirations than those 16 clubs, so I don't really care what they spend.

United are (or should have been looking at last season) competing against the very top clubs in England (and in Europe) and until this summer were outspent since 2005 by Manchester City (£711.7m), Chelsea (£665.2m), Liverpool (£482.75m), and Tottenham (£448.2m). The only club that has gone to the CL since the Glazer takeover that has spent less than United is Arsenal.


Manchester United dwarf those other clubs in terms of matchday revenue, commercial income, and the like, so there is no excuse why they should be outspending United on improving their squads by such drastic numbers (City and Chelsea) or at all (Liverpool and Tottenham). Well, no other reason than that the club has had to pay back over 600 million pounds to finance the debt that was thrown onto the club by the Glazer family.
 
go fuck yourself if you genuinely believe that other clubs don't have title aspirations
 
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