would the end of grobe mean the end of lectro?
what do you need bro? i'm here for you
Some of you need to get a grip. Just because somebody disagrees with you they aren't a coward.
Just because somebody disagrees with you they aren't a coward.
I agree with this soooo much. I have sat through many 1-10 and 2-9 seasons and Grobe changed that. I love what Grobe has done for the program, but I am not happy with the OC and DC right now, but I am really scared of going back to what we use to be.
We have certainly have not reaped any rewards from the 2006 season.
Just curious if you're hearing anything related to this stuff.
I think you're having a tough time with the difference between causation and correlation.
Lots of excuses for the sunshine brigade...
haven't heard anything yet but from talking to many of the players....One of the biggest problems with this program that no one is really talking about is ethan reeves. He is a complete idiot who has a wrestling back round and has no clue when it comes to football training. Just look at the players at the begining of the season then at the end. They shrink! The worst part about about it is that he makes them work their ass off during the season so they are all over trained. They all do the same workout..... lineman, backs all do the same workout. The nutrition with this program is trash. They are fed hot dogs and chips after practice. They are over worked and malnutritioned. (sp) Oh and btw Knorr has to go. Injuries can be used as an excuse for the offense but not defense. he is clueless and the players do not believe in him for one second.
Just think we all need to have some perspective. If we fired Grobe, most people outside of the Wake Forest bubble would say "what the hell are you doing???". This is a traditionally terrible program that has been stabilized and has had some success. Firing Grobe and expecting to land somebody who a) would actually want to come to Wake (small pool), and b) would be able to be more successful than Grobe (history has shown this to be an even smaller pool), is a HUGE gamble. I think Grobe needs to make an executive decision and change his coordinators... and this does happen at other programs. Maybe not in the same offseason all the time, but Les Miles comes to mind who changed his OC and DC in a short period of time.
haven't heard anything yet but from talking to many of the players....One of the biggest problems with this program that no one is really talking about is ethan reeves. He is a complete idiot who has a wrestling back round and has no clue when it comes to football training. Just look at the players at the begining of the season then at the end. They shrink! The worst part about about it is that he makes them work their ass off during the season so they are all over trained. They all do the same workout..... lineman, backs all do the same workout. The nutrition with this program is trash. They are fed hot dogs and chips after practice. They are over worked and malnutritioned. (sp) Oh and btw Knorr has to go. Injuries can be used as an excuse for the offense but not defense. he is clueless and the players do not believe in him for one second.
Agreed. There are ways to be critical without devolving everything into a pissing contest.
I will be forever grateful to Jim Grobe for what he has done for Wake Forest football and I will never forget it, but sometimes you have to make an executive decision that is hard to make. That's why Ron Wellman and Jim Grobe are paid the big bucks. Right now they are not doing that and the money is going to waste. That's why I am so frustrated with everything.
No doubt and very true.
That being said, Grobe's recent slide doesn't seem like it's going to change anytime soon, so what else is there to do? Do we wait until 2018 until he's ready to retire? I'm not sure we're still in the ACC if that happens.
haven't heard anything yet but from talking to many of the players....One of the biggest problems with this program that no one is really talking about is ethan reeves. He is a complete idiot who has a wrestling back round and has no clue when it comes to football training. Just look at the players at the begining of the season then at the end. They shrink! The worst part about about it is that he makes them work their ass off during the season so they are all over trained. They all do the same workout..... lineman, backs all do the same workout. The nutrition with this program is trash. They are fed hot dogs and chips after practice. They are over worked and malnutritioned. (sp) This is a tired team each and every week that shows up on saturday. Reeves breaks them down in the weight room and Grobe has gone to pads all week for 18 periods on mon-thursday. Common sense has left the building... Oh and btw Knorr has to go. Injuries can be used as an excuse for the offense but not defense. he is clueless and the players do not believe in him for one second.
Last year we were a play away from playing from the ACC championship game. In 2005, this board was ready to fire him also.
No doubt and very true.
That being said, Grobe's recent slide doesn't seem like it's going to change anytime soon, so what else is there to do? Do we wait until 2018 until he's ready to retire? I'm not sure we're still in the ACC if that happens.
Last year we were a play away from playing from the ACC championship game. In 2005, this board was ready to fire him also.