thebishop
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Bz, if you're that miserable, just resign. Life's too short, man.
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Bz, if you're that miserable, just resign. Life's too short, man.
I distinctly remember the Staak years. The thing that I remember thinking about the Sam Ivy/Ralph Kitley teams was how sad it must be to be a Wake Forest fan. One of those teams upset one of the J.R. Reid Carolina teams in Greensboro, and I remember how mortified I was by that--like I'd never live it down. Wake under [Redacted] has become everything I remember Wake being under Staak. It isn't just that we are an afterthought to the rest of college basketball, but that we are downright pitiful (and pitiable).
Skip Died
Dino Tried
Wellman Lied
Buzz Denied
Fanbase Cried
Program Fried.
Omissions
Band Geek Facialized
Story Sensationalized
Dammit. I forgot "Boosters Scandalized"
It pains me that Fan Man's appearance was the only game I missed as a student (stupid team meeting).Need a fan man shout out in there somehow.
Briefly, the "culture change" excuse is revisionary BS. The hard-to-argue response referred to the opinion that Hatch may be part of this situation, not the go-to solution.
As said before, I think RW saw in Butler a model he desired for WFU. He and Dino disagreed about the type of player we should pursue. Ironically, it was the reverse roles that got TOB fired by Yow. The disagreement was about talent level, not "character" issues. Dino wanted to be able to recruit the best talent. He lost that debate. There were other issues between the two as well.
"Culture change" has been spun to imply that there were "character" issues with Dino's teams that didnt exist before or since. Not really true. The only difference was that for a few years player problems were publicly aired. If that was part of a greater strategy to justify a course of events is unknowable by us. What is known but not publicly acknowledged is that similar problems happened before but were addressed privately. The same thing has happened over the last two or three years ... just didnt get the publicity that the earlier ones did. Amazingly, folks think if they dont know about something, it must have never happened. What has happened is that we are losing and damaging our fan support at historical levels.
"I told someone the other day that Wake ought to offer a new major in Gallows Humor, as it is absolutely necessary to survive the Wake fan experience right now."
The problem is some wouldn't get the humor and hang themselves.
Same response just a few minutes ago...the auto-responder must run at 3:00 PM EST.
It just took them a few hours to figure out how to setup the auto reply feature with rules.
Here's his response:
"Dear Rick,
Thank you for your message, and your interest in and commitment to Wake Forest athletics. I understand your concerns. We will do everything we can to restore our athletic programs to excellence and prominence.
Sincerely,
Nathan O. Hatch
President
EVERYONE here should email him.
We brought PTI to their knees.....