Carolina stomped us 2 years ago too. State hasn't won at Wake in a really long time. We should definitely win that one.
It's so LOWF that Wake fans can get excited about 6 wins, especially going up against the likes of Presbyterian, BC, LA-Monroe, Army, and Duke. So sad.
It's pretty straightforward though in theory. Make a bowl get more recruits coach them better win more down the road. We just didnt capitalize after the fresh deacs. I blame coaching philosophy.
I think it's fair to say that this year's team will be better than last year's team and the schedules are probably similar (I think this year is a little easier actually).
It sucks we lost the last three games of last year by a million points total, but it shouldn't have any effect on this year.
6-6 isn't that good, it's will we make a bowl that is the question.
Nice find on the end of year stats, PH. I think Grobe has lost his mojo. If you saw the ESPN film on Valvano, after NCSU won the NC in '83, he stopped being a coach and became a celebrity. Maybe the same has happened to Grobe. None of these recent teams have been as mentally tough as the '06 team.
I think it's fair to say that this year's team will be better than last year's team and the schedules are probably similar (I think this year is a little easier actually).
It sucks we lost the last three games of last year by a million points total, but it shouldn't have any effect on this year.
6-6 isn't that good, it's will we make a bowl that is the question.
We got absolutely hammered in Raleigh last year. I realize the game is in WS this year but I just don't see us being that much improved to where we beat State.
The ceiling of this team is five wins. At BC, and at Army are to me likely Ls. La-Monroe is not a sure win. We could easily start off 1-3. The level of this program has declined substantially since 06-08. Most of the other teams we play close are going in the opposite direction from us, and I give them the edge. The recruiting hole we've dug would take years to climb out of if we were actually recruiting well, which we aren't. I don't look for the trend of the last four years to abate.
Exactly. My point was that we're far too shitty to think that almost any game (except maybe Presby, oh wait we beat FUCKING LIBERTY by 3 points) is a gimme. Hell I bet Duke beats us by double digits this year.
I'll stick with my original prediction of 4-8 but could easily be talked into 2 or 3 wins.
And I 100% agree with Amanda Bynes' post a couple above me, I'd rather us go 0-12 than 4-8 or 5-7. In the words of my personal diety DV7, this AD needs to be burnt to the fucking ground. Kill everyone and start over.
Recruiting has been nowhere near as bad as you are making it sound the last few years. On paper the recruiting looks much better than it did during Grobe's glory days here.
Who knows? I just wish Grobe or Wellman would admit that our poor finishes are a problem. I don't think I've ever seen either one of them even mention the trend or discuss solutions to the problem. If I'm wrong, please post some examples. Even on this board, it often gets brushed off as "well the schedule gets more difficult" as if failure to beat all but the worst teams isn't a big problem.
For the record, here are the teams we have beaten for that one win at the end of the last 4 seasons:
2009 - Duke 5-7 (3-5) (Duke ended on a 4 game losing streak)
2010 - Vandy 2-10
2011 - Maryland 2-10 (1-7)
2012 - Boston College 2-10 (1-7)
Two things:
On field results suggest otherwise.
There are more 3* players overall than 10+ years ago. Every school looks better on paper as a result.
I won't even go there as far as 5* players go. But I wonder how many 4*s we've recruited over the last ten years.
Actually, I don't really wonder. I think I know.
well part of the problem for us is injuries..by seasons end our starters are banged up and unlike every other acc team we can't replace them. but i do think it's a serious problem yes. idk if it's all on coach grobe though.
Redshirting is supposed to help overcome depth issues by having experienced players ready to play.
And every team has injuries. Our best season was an injury riddled season.
True, but we got REALLY lucky regarding one of those injuries.
Yep, we thought the season was over and it was just beginning!
At least at QB we have more depth than then. And, perhaps we have a wr who can play rb?