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How would you define a successful basketball season?

What is successful

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Making the tournament and playing to seed in the ACC and NCAA Tournaments.
 
PhDeac said:
Making the tournament and playing to seed in the ACC and NCAA Tournaments.
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Decided to look up when the last time we did both of these. 2002. 3 seed in the ACC tournament and lost to 2nd seeded Duke. 7 seed in the NCAA tournament and lost to 2nd seeded Oregon.

2010 - early ACC exit to 12th seeded Miami
2009 - early ACC and NCAA exits
2005 - early ACC and NCAA exits
2004 - early ACC exit
2003 - early ACC and NCAA exits
 
And 2002 is the last time we were truly happy about how we finished the season.
 
I was okay with 2004 because as soon as the St. Joes game ended I was excited about 2005.
 
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Fuck Your Couch said:
Decided to look up when the last time we did both of these. 2002. 3 seed in the ACC tournament and lost to 2nd seeded Duke. 7 seed in the NCAA tournament and lost to 2nd seeded Oregon.

2010 - early ACC exit to 12th seeded Miami
2009 - early ACC and NCAA exits
2005 - early ACC and NCAA exits
2004 - early ACC exit
2003 - early ACC and NCAA exits
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By that measure, dook has had one successful season (2010) in the last 10 years.
 
Helps them, or hurts them in this case, that the committee always overseeds them. Arbitrary measure for sure though. No one would say it was unsuccessful if we lost a round early in the ACC tournament and went one or two rounds more in the NCAA tournament.
 
Needless to say, Duke basketball is different than Wake basketball.
 
Make the NCAA tournament. That means we are a solid team. Doesn't mean we are great, but it means we come to play and have played a good schedule. We would have to win 22 games with our current schedule in order to make the tournament IMO.
 
I think we'd need more than that and at least 10-6 and make it to Saturday.
 
PhDeac said:
Needless to say, Duke basketball is different than Wake basketball.
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You picked a stupid standard. I suggest you modify.

Michigan State, 2010: 28-9, Final Four appearance, upset by Minnesota in the quarterfinals of the B1G tournament. Successful or not?

Absolute achievements matter. If we had pulled out the St. Joe's game, and especially if we had gone on to beat Okie State the next round, everyone in their right mind would call that a successful season, regardless of the fact that we got Gilchristed in the ACCT. Any year in which we make the Final Four (or, IMO, the Elite Eight) is a successful year. In my opinion, winning the ACCT and then not flaming out in the NCAAT constitutes a successful season, so 1995 would qualify. Too much variance in one-game elimination formats to pin a whole season's evaluation on playing to seed in not one but two tournaments. Even more extreme than the MSU example given above is UNC 2005, which was upset in the ACCT semis before winning it all. I doubt their fans were too broken up over losing to GT.
 
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PhDeac said:
I think we'd need more than that and at least 10-6 and make it to Saturday.
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10-6? We play 18 conference games. I think we need to go at least 11-7 in conference and grab 11 OOC wins to have a shot. And this is all meaningless, considering we won't come even close.
 
woody9186 said:
10-6? We play 18 conference games. I think we need to go at least 11-7 in conference and grab 11 OOC wins to have a shot. And this is all meaningless, considering we won't come even close.
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yarp
 
OldGoldBeard said:
You picked a stupid standard. I suggest you modify.

Michigan State, 2010: 28-9, Final Four appearance, upset by Minnesota in the quarterfinals of the B1G tournament. Successful or not?

Absolute achievements matter. If we had pulled out the St. Joe's game, and especially if we had gone on to beat Okie State the next round, everyone in their right mind would call that a successful season, regardless of the fact that we got Gilchristed in the ACCT. Any year in which we make the Final Four (or, IMO, the Elite Eight) is a successful year. In my opinion, winning the ACCT and then not flaming out in the NCAAT constitutes a successful season, so 1995 would qualify. Too much variance in one-game elimination formats to pin a whole season's evaluation on playing to seed in not one but two tournaments. Even more extreme than the MSU example given above is UNC 2005, which was upset in the ACCT semis before winning it all. I doubt their fans were too broken up over losing to GT.
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So your standard of success is the Elite Eight or ACC Championship?
 
An NIT bid and Buzz fired would be a solid season for me. I didn't see an option for that, though, so I opted for the doofi.
 
Any season that results in Bz permanently leaving WS is reason enough to celebrate in March
 
I would be feeling great about 2014-2015 if we spent some time on the NCAA bubble and made a strong showing in the ACCT and NIT. I think we have the roster where that would be realistic, given a competent coach.

[Redacted] is held to a higher standard though, given the 3 year shit show. Not that it matters because he'll be lucky to sniff the NIT bubble.
 
Based on the talent on the roster I think an NIT bid would be a success. Based on where we should be in year 4 of a new coach I think we should be making the NCAA Tournament and advancing in it once we get there.
 
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