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Breaking down the Tunnels' favorite conservative myth

jhmd2000 said:
Pretty interesting that "jhmd just decided to ignore" bit in a thread where I've asked a question four times that no one has bothered to answer.

The interesting part of that picture is the guy on the left giving you the bird. Do you think that Asians improve your argument?
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Yeah, what was the question again?
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Most immigrants also don't have the existing legacy of being enslaved in America dating back 150+ years with the surrounding derivative effects which it carries in tow.
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Is it that they were enslaved? I don't think that having ancestors that were slaves 150 years ago matters as much as the environment that slavery created in this country in the past and present. Is someone that is a more recent immigrant from Africa at an advantage over someone that was a descendant of a slave? I would think the answer is no.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
Is it that they were enslaved? I don't think that having ancestors that were slaves 150 years ago matters as much as the environment that slavery created in this country in the past and present. Is someone that is a more recent immigrant from Africa at an advantage over someone that was a descendant of a slave? I would think the answer is no.
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I'm not going to bother to look up the statistics other than to say that I've seen many statistics that claim, that as a population, first and second generation African/West Indian immigrants are far more likely to be "successful" than multi generational African Americans...something like 80% of the black people in ivy league schools are first or second generation African/West Indian immigrants
 
jhmd2000 said:
Pretty interesting that "jhmd just decided to ignore" bit in a thread where I've asked a question four times that no one has bothered to answer.

The interesting part of that picture is the guy on the left giving you the bird. Do you think that Asians improve your argument?
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This is just another dodge on your part.
 
As I understand jh's question, asked 4 times, he wants to know "Who would benefit most from the left suspending their disbelief and teaching dumb poors the myth?"

I'm guessing the answer is "dumb poors."
 
Baconwfu said:
I'm not going to bother to look up the statistics other than to say that I've seen many statistics that claim, that as a population, first and second generation African/West Indian immigrants are far more likely to be "successful" than multi generational African Americans...something like 80% of the black people in ivy league schools are first or second generation African/West Indian immigrants
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It takes a while to fully realize just how disadvantaged minorities are in this country. First generation African Americans are unaware how poorly they are expected to perform. Absent that knowledge they mistakenly have great success.
 
jhmd2000 said:
Pretty interesting that "jhmd just decided to ignore" bit in a thread where I've asked a question four times that no one has bothered to answer.

The interesting part of that picture is the guy on the left giving you the bird. Do you think that Asians improve your argument?
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I feel pretty good about the internment camp survivors in that reparations bill signing ceremony improving my argument, yeah. Not sure why you went out of your way to bring them up in the first place, though.
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
I feel pretty good about the internment camp survivors in that reparations bill signing ceremony improving my argument, yeah. Not sure why you went out of your way to bring them up in the first place, though.
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All Americans should aspire to be so good at handling their business that guilty white liberals seek to punish them for their success.
 
Yeah it's a shame most people who have made it to that level so far are white people. Really shows the inequality.
 
The point, which should be obvious, is that the message we should send to people whose forebears were plundered by enslavement, terrorism, redlining, and the denial of the protection of the law is a reparations check. That's one way that African Americans should be more like Japanese Americans. People who have suffered a specific injury from government policy designed to injure them should receive compensation.
 
TuffaloDeac10 said:
The point, which should be obvious, is that the message we should send to people whose forebears were plundered by enslavement, terrorism, redlining, and the denial of the protection of the law is a reparations check. That's one way that African Americans should be more like Japanese Americans. People who have suffered a specific injury from government policy designed to injure them should receive compensation.
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Was the reparations to the Japanese to the injured parties or to their heirs?
 
I'm trying to figure out the point of the 'myth/theory' in the first place - what it aims to achieve.

To prove that the poor aren't trying hard enough at life?
 
knowell said:
Was the reparations to the Japanese to the injured parties or to their heirs?
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Living survivors. We had already paid some compensation in 1948 though. At any rate, I don't think the question matters too much because we have living people who suffered plunder through redlining and denial of GI Bill benefits.
 
jhmd2000 said:
All Americans should aspire to be so good at handling their business that guilty white conservatives seek to punish them for their success.
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FIFY and I believe that you have just described the foreclosure crisis.
 
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