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lbE08 said:
The pictures in National Geographic Magazine can do the same thing - expose kids to the fact there is a big world up there. Buy a globe, talk about all the neat places. Build it up to something they're looking forward to experiencing, rather than dragging them everywhere to expose them.


note: You may very well do this. I am not criticizing you for taking your kids places; if you have the means, absolutely... but for most average American families, big European vacations with the whole family are going to be out of the question. My point is that you can instill a love of travel and help your kids experience and appreciate the world while still only traveling domestically when they're young.
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show them a picture of a wake football game or take them; same experience

come on
 
When I have kids, I just really want them to love the outdoors. With the high likelihood that they grow up at a summer camp, I like my chances. I hope to take lots of family camping & backpacking trips in the spring and fall. With the ultimate goal that my kid wants to give me a good excuse to take a ton of time off in my 50s and hike the AT with them.
 
DeacInVermont said:
I've made it clear in my office that I will not participate in such things unless the child asks me for the sale directly. Even then, unless the pitch is a good one, I will probably say, "thanks, but no thanks".

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My favorite post of the day and there have been some good ones. I assume you're waiting for the maple syrup to start flowing from the tree you tapped in your front yard
 
have to say, we took ITCbaby out for a hike on Saturday and I'm pretty sure that was the longest sustained squee-ing of fun she's had in her 6.5 months of existence
 
DeacDiggler said:
My favorite post of the day and there have been some good ones. I assume you're waiting for the maple syrup to start flowing from the tree you tapped in your front yard
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At which point, I would be open to bartering the raw sap, or processed syrup, for the various goods and services on offer.

I'll edit to add that maple trees usually get tapped in March when daily highs get above freezing and the nights are just below freezing. That said, the current use exemption for property taxes on land used in a sugaring operation flows all year long.
 
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JDawg said:
way to conveniently leave out the second part of the statement
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in a direct response, with bolded quote, she's arguing that you can expose a kid to the word through media just as well as real life

i'm not sure how you interpret her comments otherwise
 
ImTheCaptain said:
in a direct response, with bolded quote, she's arguing that you can expose a kid to the word through media just as well as real life

i'm not sure how you interpret her comments otherwise
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You can expose them to the fact there is a big wide world out there, yes. Absolutely. I lived that life growing up. Did I go overseas before the age of 20? Nope... but you better believe I knew all about the places I was going to be visiting when I did have the opportunity to travel abroad.

OBVIOUSLY there is a great experience to be had by actually taking your kids places and showing them the world at a young age. I don't doubt or deny that for a second. For many, though, this is just not a realistic option - doesn't take away your ability to 'show' them the world.
 
Outside of airfare, the additional cost of taking two kids on a big vacation isn't that great. And if you have miles it becomes even less of a big deal. Looking at National Geographic may be inspiring for kids and adults, but it's nothing like going somewhere.
 
BiffTannen said:
Outside of airfare, the additional cost of taking two kids on a big vacation isn't that great. And if you have miles it becomes even less of a big deal. Looking at National Geographic may be inspiring for kids and adults, but it's nothing like going somewhere.
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Yeah, miles are awesome IF you have them. Travel is great IF you can afford it. You're missing my point.
 
lbE08 said:
You can expose them to the fact there is a big wide world out there, yes. Absolutely. I lived that life growing up. Did I go overseas before the age of 20? Nope... but you better believe I knew all about the places I was going to be visiting when I did have the opportunity to travel abroad.

OBVIOUSLY there is a great experience to be had by actually taking your kids places and showing them the world at a young age. I don't doubt or deny that for a second. For many, though, this is just not a realistic option - doesn't take away your ability to 'show' them the world.
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i dont' think any one is going to argue that showing a person a photograph doesn't "expose" them to said place/object/thing.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
i think biff's point is that taking your kid is an investment in the kid's development
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Yeah, that, and that it's not the same as looking at a magazine. You could know everything about a city through the internet, TV, books, and magazines, but you wouldn't really know much about it till you went there.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
i think biff's point is that taking your kid is an investment in the kid's development
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I suppose... but for me/my perspective, your average 9 yr old is not going to have the same cultural "oh my gosh I can't believe I get to see/experience this in person" feeling they might have at a later point in life.

AGAIN - if you have the money, go for it. I would. It's unlikely I'll be in that position, though.
 
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