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SayHeyDeac's Thread For Serious Political Discourse Only--Trolls Need Not Apply

I'm am guessing some people at the pentagon got ahold of him and let him know how the next decades operational plans are all dependent on climate change being real and the effect it will have.

Going to be hard to embrace climate change and fire up that coal, who will protect the coal workers now, will somebody think of the coal workers.
 
Clinton was the liar and Kerry was the flip-flopper. Jesus.


How can we ever believe anything out of this guy?
 
Some of the things coming out today from Trump are truly bizarre, even by his standards.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
Some of the things coming out today from Trump are truly bizarre, even by his standards.
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I think he is just literally learning things. Which is a good thing I suppose. I really have no idea what Trump even is.
 
ThinkingWithMyDeac said:
I'm am guessing some people at the pentagon got ahold of him and let him know how the next decades operational plans are all dependent on climate change being real and the effect it will have.

Going to be hard to embrace climate change and fire up that coal, who will protect the coal workers now, will somebody think of the coal workers.
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Yeah, coal jobs are never, ever coming back. That was just a good-ole fashioned political lie that he told everybody in the Rust Belt so they would vote for him. Even reducing a lot of the regulations for coal and oil in America isn't going to bring jobs back there. It's been collapsing for years, if not decades, and while it's easy to blame the "8 years of Obama" and play to those undertones, there's really nothing Trump can do to make those jobs more competitive vs. natural gas.
 
Deacfreak07 said:
I think he is just literally learning things. Which is a good thing I suppose. I really have no idea what Trump even is.
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Remember, he didn't know until two weeks ago that:

A. He had to fill the West Wing with his own staff (he doesn't just get to keep Obama's staff)
B. The full scope of what the POTUS actually does

We elected a complete and utter moron to the White House and he played on the fears of a good part of the nation. When you don't believe facts, and put feelings first, this is what you get. A well-deserved idiocracy.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
Yeah, coal jobs are never, ever coming back. That was just a good-ole fashioned political lie that he told everybody in the Rust Belt so they would vote for him. Even reducing a lot of the regulations for coal and oil in America isn't going to bring jobs back there. It's been collapsing for years, if not decades, and while it's easy to blame the "8 years of Obama" and play to those undertones, there's really nothing Trump can do to make those jobs more competitive vs. natural gas.
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It's spelled "clean coal"
 
DeaconBrews said:
They're gonna run out of #SWPL places to send Pence to eventually. Look for him at a blue state farmers market soon!
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Our wonderful VP, Mike Pence, was treated very unfairly today Haight-Ashbury Pride Parade. He was just taking a walk with his family. Lady Gaga is a nasty woman!
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-american-economy-in-this-election/?tid=sm_fb

The divide is economic, and it is massive. According to the Brookings analysis, the less-than-500 counties that Clinton won nationwide combined to generate 64 percent of America's economic activity in 2015. The more-than-2,600 counties that Trump won combined to generate 36 percent of the country's economic activity last year.
Clinton, in other words, carried nearly two-thirds of the American economy.
 
One of Trump's top priorities is to drop the Obama regulations requiring all employers to pay any employee who makes between $23K-$47K time and a half for overtime.

Rough for a decent percentage of Trump voters. SAD !
 
Deacsfan27 said:
One of Trump's top priorities is to drop the Obama regulations requiring all employers to pay any employee who makes between $23K-$47K time and a half for overtime.

Rough for a decent percentage of Trump voters. SAD !
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Well to be fair, a lot of those people were probably going to lose their jobs. I know I work in an industry that was really struggling to adjust to that drastic jump in salary. Most places were just going to cut staff or cut hours to keep close to their current staffing budget. I'm all for a living wage, but you can't just get there overnight.
 
One thing that needs to end yesterday is people crying about jobs to avoid paying people a decent wage.

Yesterday, I was talking to a lawyer buddy of mine who has a very successful law firm. He works 80+ hours a week. He voted for Trump although he's moved left over the years and generally embraces Bernie/Warren reforms. We were talking about the concept of livable wages. He said that he feels bad for poor people but he works very hard to earn money and he expects others to do the same. I responded that there are plenty of people who work just as hard as he does, but they have little to no chance of getting ahead getting paid minimum wage. I'd rather a business pay 8 people $12 an hour than pay 12 people $8 an hour and be more efficient. That's going to help 8 people reduce their government dependence and programs can focus on 4 people who really need it.
 
PhDeac said:
One thing that needs to end yesterday is people crying about jobs to avoid paying people a decent wage.

Yesterday, I was talking to a lawyer buddy of mine who has a very successful law firm. He works 80+ hours a week. He voted for Trump although he's moved left over the years and generally embraces Bernie/Warren reforms. We were talking about the concept of livable wages. He said that he feels bad for poor people but he works very hard to earn money and he expects others to do the same. I responded that there are plenty of people who work just as hard as he does, but they have little to no chance of getting ahead getting paid minimum wage. I'd rather a business pay 8 people $12 an hour than pay 12 people $8 an hour and be more efficient. That's going to help 8 people reduce their government dependence and programs can focus on 4 people who really need it.
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That's great and all in theory. Not sure how you can dictate just how many employees one business or another actually "needs" to operate though.
 
DeacMan said:
That's great and all in theory. Not sure how you can dictate just how many employees one business or another actually "needs" to operate though.
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I'm not talking about dictating anything besides the lowest possible amount a business can pay somebody. If minimum wage goes up and the business decides they still need 12 employees, they can devote more to their payroll than their pockets. Otherwise, the business can decide it needs fewer employees.
 
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