Thanks, Obama

[MichDeac25]

Curiously, the OP left out a critical piece of the quote:

"But growth would be much stronger 'had we made intelligent decisions and were there not gridlock.' He complained that 'we are unable to build bridges, we're unable to build airports, our inner-city school kids are not graduating.'"

 

[WakeandBake]

Being barred from going in the women's bathroom does not equate to dealing with regulatory compliance you sick freak

:naughty:

 

[CDeacMan]

Dimon was the one Lonestar played in the movie right?

 

[birdman]

ITT: people who have never had to comply with business regulations thinking regulations are just dandy

Regulations equate to optimization constraints established by society at large for a variety of reasons. Businesses are faced with three pathways wrt to regulatory constraints, 1) figure out how to maximize profits within the legal constraints passed onto them by law makers, 2) lobby to rewrite the constraints, or 3) violate the constraints and risk reprisals. Most businesses and people choose option one, some choose option two and a few choose option three. Future state uncertainty is promulgated largely by businesses that choose the second pathway of fighting against the established constraints or the third pathway of simply violating the constraints, not by the constraints them selves which are generally static in the absence of political movements.

 

[WakeandBake]

So be a better business person and STFU, basically.

Not all regs are perfect and certainly they should be tweaked, but this over-generalized caterwauling about regulations killing jobs and growth is largely inaccurate and just a political football.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

ITT: people who have never had to comply with business regulations thinking regulations are just dandy

ITT HR rep and part time book keeper whines about regs despite the fact that thousands of businesses have no problems with regulations

 

[2&2 Slider To Leyritz]

Regulations equate to optimization constraints established by society at large for a variety of reasons. Businesses are faced with three pathways wrt to regulatory constraints, 1) figure out how to maximize profits within the legal constraints passed onto them by law makers, 2) lobby to rewrite the constraints, or 3) violate the constraints and risk reprisals. Most businesses and people choose option one, some choose option two and a few choose option three. Future state uncertainty is promulgated largely by businesses that choose the second pathway of fighting against the established constraints or the third pathway of simply violating the constraints, not by the constraints them selves which are generally static in the absence of political movements.

There is a huge hole in your logic. Future state uncertainty is actually promulgated mostly by businesses that choose the first pathway, as that includes a big "fuck it" segment of businesses that either export certain product/service lines or drop them entirely as a component of maximizing profits within the constraints. I would say with certainty that the effect of those actions have exponentially more impact on future state uncertainty than the other two pathways combined.

 

[birdman]

There is a huge hole in your logic. Future state uncertainty is actually promulgated mostly by businesses that choose the first pathway, as that includes a big "fuck it" segment of businesses that either export certain product/service lines or drop them entirely as a component of maximizing profits within the constraints. I would say with certainty that the effect of those actions have exponentially more impact on future state uncertainty than the other two pathways combined.

The regulations themselves are certain in the absence of political movement to change them. The actions of businesses in response to regulations creates economic uncertainty, sure, but the regulatory environment is fairly static.

 

[2&2 Slider To Leyritz]

The regulations themselves are certain in the absence of political movement to change them. The actions of businesses in response to regulations creates economic uncertainty, sure, but the regulatory environment is fairly static.

So Trump's election is evidence of a static regulatory environment? He is the result of over-regulation.

 

[birdman]

So Trump's election is evidence of a static regulatory environment? He is the result of over-regulation.

Trump's election is the result of a political movement. There is no regulation, to my knowledge, that stipulates the American people must fuck themselves in the ass with a splintery jagged piece of wood.

 

[warak]

So Trump's election is evidence of a static regulatory environment? He is the result of over-regulation.

over-regulation? regulations provide safeguards to protect the american people. do we like them? no because it costs us money, but they are needed. who needs clean water, who needs clean air, who needs safe workplaces, who needs someone to ensure that companies act legally.

don't be silly. there is a reason why "give them an inch and they take a mile" is a know phrase, and if you take into account a corporate bottom line...

 

[2&2 Slider To Leyritz]

over-regulation? regulations provide safeguards to protect the american people. do we like them? no because it costs us money, but they are needed. who needs clean water, who needs clean air, who needs safe workplaces, who needs someone to ensure that companies act legally.

Yeah no shit, hence why I said "over-regulation", and not simply "regulation".

 

[dartsndeacs]

ITT HR rep and part time book keeper whines about regs despite the fact that thousands of businesses have no problems with regulations

Well yeah, because most of us just pay for Employment Practices insurance to cover up for the tons of time we break the law every day. I'll check back in after I get done guiding my 70 year old boss through his sexual harassment training, have a witty response by then.

kthnx.

 

[WakeandBake]

Well yeah, because most of us just pay for Employment Practices insurance to cover up for the tons of time we break the law every day. I'll check back in after I get done guiding my 70 year old boss through his sexual harassment training, have a witty response by then.

kthnx.

sounds like regulations are a big part of why you have a job. you're welcome

 

[WakeandBake]

Yeah no shit, hence why I said "over-regulation", and not simply "regulation".

talk about the over-regulation that is hindering your business unnecessarily, please

 

[JuiceCrewAllStar]

So Trump's election is evidence of a static regulatory environment? He is the result of over-regulation.

A lot of Trump's base wants to see stronger trade regulation with increased restrictions on imports, etc. I don't think the rural voters who put him in office really felt the effects of overregulation.

 

[dartsndeacs]

sounds like regulations are a big part of why you have a job. you're welcome

Oh, I'm not denying that without stupid tax and labor laws I'd be pretty useless. Also I'm pretty well compensated. I suspect that's part of what these "business owners" complain about. Maybe they have a point.

 

[WakeandBake]

Oh, I'm not denying that without stupid tax and labor laws I'd be pretty useless. Also I'm pretty well compensated. I suspect that's part of what these "business owners" complain about. Maybe they have a point.

Congrats on the compensation.

So the laws that you went to school to learn about to build your skill-set to make yourself attractive to hiring managers are "stupid?"

lol you sound like a very fulfilled man, professionally.

 

[dartsndeacs]

Congrats on the compensation.

So the laws that you went to school to learn about to build your skill-set to make yourself attractive to hiring managers are "stupid?"

lol you sound like a very fulfilled man, professionally.

Pretty much. When you're a poor and take out tens of thousands of dollars in student loans to go to school, the #bootstraps thing to do is pick the major that says your school is pushing you towards because of "100% job placement"

 

[WakeandBake]

Pretty much. When you're a poor and take out tens of thousands of dollars in student loans to go to school, the #bootstraps thing to do is pick the major that says your school is pushing you towards because of "100% job placement"

nice work-in of bootstraps, well done