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The Alaska buyout would let Alaska keep the funding that is in the ACA, but it would still remove the mandates and defund PP, right? Isn't that basically the "skinny" bill from July?
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Writing his opinions is the most essential part of his work. I get that some judges think playing fantasy football with their clerks is more important, but kudos to him.
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not really;the most important part of his work is considering the merits of each case and the ramifications of his decisions; writing the opinion is fairly mechanical
 
TownieDeac said:
Perhaps you missed where I called the ACA "weak ass legislation" a page ago. I don't know who read it and who didn't, but I'm also not making a central part of any argument that Congress shouldn't have staff assist them with their work.
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If, when it came to the most important legislation of their tenure, they did it themselves then maybe we wouldn't (and definitely shouldn't) have said weak ass legislation. It was either poor reading comprehension or poor delegation, but either way was inexcusable.
 
ImTheCaptain said:
not really;the most important part of his work is considering the merits of each case and the ramifications of his decisions; writing the opinion is fairly mechanical
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No. The opinion is what gets used and cherrypicked for years down the line as precedent. At the appellate level, the facts of the specific case before him are relatively inconsequential.
 
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2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
No. The opinion is what gets used for years down the line as precedent. At the appellate level, the facts of the specific case before him are relatively inconsequential.
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right, which is why they delegate the task of writing the words to knowledgeable underlings and then edit the final work
 
ImTheCaptain said:
right, which is why they delegate the task of writing the words to knowledgeable underlings and then edit the final work
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Apparently you've never had the pleasure of assigning research/writing projects to law school students and recent graduates, even those from top-tier schools.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Wrong, he got you again, you fall for it every goddamn time. Nobody's health care is at stake. Their insurance is at stake. Hospitals aren't going to start locking their doors if Obamacare goes away. It will go back to exactly as it was before, with those who can pay subsidizing those who can't via outrageous charges. And then hopefully someone with some sense will put forth a proposal that actually makes some sense.
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Sure it is, reductions in Medicaid will cost many children their health care as well as many people who are mentally compromised, oops they got you again.
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Apparently you've never had the pleasure of assigning research/writing projects to law school students and recent graduates, even those from top-tier schools.
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no but I have had the pleasure of reading your posts, though

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2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Hell no. The judge should do his own job, not try to rely on some douchebag law student, or recent graduate who can't find an actual job, who doesn't know a damn thing.
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These are not at all who clerks for high end judges.

My god you know nothing about what you are talking about.
 
How could a judge possibly be expected to write every decision that comes across the bench?

Even working 90 hours a week I can't imagine this is possible. Particularly trial court judges where they spend half their day presiding over trials and at least two or three days a week in afternoon motion sessions.

Even with a good session clerk who handles all the administrative stuff and procedural filings as a matter of course there's just no way this could happen.
 
Man the liberals on these boards sure are experts on everything. Its remarkable.
 
palmab03 said:
Man the liberals on these boards sure are experts on everything. Its remarkable.
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2and2 is literally debating with somebody who just came out of being a judicial clerk and is in that field. While I don't know if Numbers is an "expert", he has extensive knowledge on how these thing work.

It is clear based on what 2and2 keeps spewing that he does not at all.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
2and2 is literally debating with somebody who just came out of being a judicial clerk and is in that field. While I don't know if Numbers is an "expert", he has extensive knowledge on how these thing work. It is clear that 2and2 does not.
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I think its reasonable to expect judges to write their own opinions, that's what they were elected to do
 
I think it's been so long people forget how healthcare was before Obamacare for a lot of people and what this bill would actually do. First the way States got around people with pre existing conditions was essentially do whatever they wanted, now a majority of them, 39 developed high risk pools. However every high risk pool isn't created equal, all of them are super expensive because you have a pool of the most expensive people to insure. So to pay for this States used mostly money provided by the federal government, you think those red states have enough cash floating around let alone the will to provide coverage. Now what does the new plan do, it resets everything back to the states so what would States do, set up the same system as before Obamacare. What's missing over time, the federal money shrinks further and further. So the new bill worse than Obamacare, worse than before Obamacare, but will pass.
 
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