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DeaconSig said:
Remember when certain folks on the right told us that the left freaking out about stuff like Russia's involvement in the election, the President being a birther who sexually assaults women, and the right's refusal to condemn white supremacy was just liberals being hysterical?

What does the right's response to NFL players conducting a peaceful protest during the national anthem qualify as?
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Patriotic. Standing up (pun intended) for what's right.
 
You have to wonder if Trump's timing of these tweets is directly correlated to the health care bill likely to fail.

Maybe I'm giving him way too much credit but usually when he goes off on tangents like this it is to divert from some other failure in the government that he doesn't want other people to think about.
 
Deacsfan27 said:
You have to wonder if Trump's timing of these tweets is directly correlated to the health care bill likely to fail.

Maybe I'm giving him way too much credit but usually when he goes off on tangents like this it is to divert from some other failure in the government that he doesn't want other people to think about.
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it's quite clear Trump uses inflammatory tweets to distract
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Which, again, is the sign of an awful protest. If it was a good protest then there would only be one way to see the protesters' position.
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You disengenious dummy. White conservatives are not the center of the universe. Rich famous black people using their platform to publicly resist your dipshit flag humping authoritarianism is inspiring to other black people. Why the fuck do you think that runaway slaves and revolutionary black protesters and resistors have been publicly killed, and strung up from trees?
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
These protests haven't been effective either, which is my point. What have these protests done to improve police brutality? Not a goddamn thing. All they have done is cause arguments like this over honoring the flag and military and respect and OWGs, and now mostly Trump. I'm not arguing their right to protest, so long as the NFL is cool with it then go right ahead, it doesn't bother me. My point is that they have been misguided and ineffective protests with respect to their intended message.
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Kap>Eli
 
CaptainAwesome said:
Totally. Black people could sit anywhere they wanted on a bus the day after Rosa Parks was arrested. No arguments were caused whatsoever.

The point of protests is to cause arguments, to make people think, and to hopefully, some day, solve the issue. If white people weren't so upset by this then no one would be talking about it and everyone would just ignore the protest and keep on watching football like they've always done before. That in my opinion would be a misguided protest. If people don't care about what you're doing, there's no point in doing it. Protest don't bring change immediately.

And stop saying they could kneel during a play of the game. You know they would get benched and would therefore no longer have a platform for protest. That's a misguided protest.
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Except that they are arguing about the wrong issue. They are arguing about respecting the flag, nobody is talking about police brutality or racism or whatever the message of the protest is actually supposed to be. Rosa Parks' protest made sense because where she sat on the bus was a good way to protest where she was sitting on the bus.

So if Dak Prescott takes a knee on the first play of the game tonight in support of better police relations he is going to get benched? GTFO of here with that nonsense. How about Zeke? He can beat his girlfriend all day long and not get benched, and quit on his team last week and will still be out there tonight ... how many plays would he have to take a knee on before he got benched?
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
You disengenious dummy. White conservatives are not the center of the universe. Rich famous black people using their platform to publicly resist your dipshit flag humping authoritarianism is inspiring to other black people. Why the fuck do you think that runaway slaves and revolutionary black protesters and resistors have been publicly killed, and strung up from trees?
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It is kind of a counterproductive protest, since something like 70% of people think its just rich spoiled athletes being disrespectful it only makes Trump more powerful, racial divides deeper, and hate stronger.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
It is kind of a counterproductive protest, since something like 70% of people think its just rich spoiled athletes being disrespectful it only makes Trump more powerful, racial divides deeper, and hate stronger.
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How confident are you in these numbers?
 
2&2 Slider To Leyritz said:
Except that they are arguing about the wrong issue. They are arguing about respecting the flag, nobody is talking about police brutality or racism or whatever the message of the protest is actually supposed to be. Rosa Parks' protest made sense because where she sat on the bus was a good way to protest where she was sitting on the bus.

So if Dak Prescott takes a knee on the first play of the game tonight in support of better police relations he is going to get benched? GTFO of here with that nonsense. How about Zeke? He can beat his girlfriend all day long and not get benched, and quit on his team last week and will still be out there tonight ... how many plays would he have to take a knee on before he got benched?
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Interesting thing about Rosa Parks is that she was not actually sitting in the white section of the bus, but actually the front of the black section. The white section was over capacity so a white women asked her to move from her seat in the black section and Rosa refused. Not really important detail but interesting non the less.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
It is kind of a counterproductive protest, since something like 70% of people think its just rich spoiled athletes being disrespectful it only makes Trump more powerful, racial divides deeper, and hate stronger.
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People such as yourself have said the same damn thing about every form of progressive protest, non of them are productive becauae they are divisive, and opponents can debate their motive, yet somehow they are always effective.
 
MHBDemon said:
wait, you know what happened to Kap right?
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Kaep didn't not get signed solely because the protest. Nobody wants a backup quarterback to be a controversial figure. If owners thought he could win them a Superbowl he would be on a team right now. if Russel Wilson takes a knee teams would still sign him come free agency.
 
myDeaconmyhand said:
People such as yourself have said the same damn thing about every form of progressive protest, non of them are productive becauae they are divisive, and opponents can debate their motive, yet somehow they are always effective.
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Do you think race relations are getting better right now or worse?
 
It's also scary how easily,what appears to be normal everyday people, can be whipped into a frenzy over something so simple and innocent. While extreme if you ever wondered how normal citizens went along with gassing people it's right in front of you. There is blind following and acceptance rooted in pure evil and hate that trump taps into. People are ready to take to the streets because a few black athletes in their mind are disrespecting the American flag. There's already a large uptick in hate crimes and language. So what does the future hold when a terrorist attack occurs perpetrated by someone claiming to be Muslim?
 
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