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John McCain has died

Not helping your cause.

Meh, I’m not likely to win over a bunch of boot licking capitalists that would rather buddy up to John McCain and George Bush than organize with a leftist organization.
 
MDMH is full of stereotypes. Poor rural white people, suburban moms. That’s how you narrow the size of a tent and don’t get people to show up to vote for progressive candidates.
 
This thread from Ben Wittes does a nice job of capturing my feelings about the Trumpist right and its enablers, a certain faction of the far left, our current predicament and what it all means for me in the future. Given the level of discourse on this thread from both sides, it feels appropriate to leave here.



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That’s good stuff.
 
So depressing to see people that would self describe as "progressive" take such horrible positions.
 
MDMH is full of stereotypes. Poor rural white people, suburban moms. That’s how you narrow the size of a tent and don’t get people to show up to vote for progressive candidates.
Really want for us to be allies, seems like we should be, but you continue with a shitty disengenious interpretation of my POV. Recognizing and fixing an inefficiency (or derilection) in the focus of the party IS NOT going to hurt turnout. Did Gillum's particular campaign change of focus hurt turnout in Florida? You know it didnt. I don't deserve your bad faith.
 
This is a great read.

John McCain’s Funeral Was a Council of War—Just as He Meant It to Be
A dispatch from the National Cathedral.
Charles P. Pierce

It was said almost immediately after the conclusion of the funeral ceremonies on Saturday that, for a few hours anyway, we were back in a familiar country with familiar customs and manners and norms, a country with institutions built to last. That may well be true. I felt it, too. But in back of that is the realization that all of us, including the deceased, had taken those customs, manners, norms, and institutions terribly for granted. We thought they could withstand anything, even a renegade president* in the pocket of a distant authoritarian goon. We let the customs, manners, norms and institutions weaken through neglect and now we are in open conflict with an elected president and, make no mistake about it, John McCain's funeral was a council of war, and it was a council of war because that's what John McCain meant it to be.

He deliberately made known to people that the president* was not welcome at any of the services. He deliberately chose the previous two presidents to deliver the formal eulogies. He deliberately created that scene in the Capitol rotunda at which Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and Mike Pence, an unholy trio of Trumpist quislings, had to choke down their own cowardice and say how much they loved him and his irascibility. He deliberately created a mirror in which, if they still have an ounce of self-awareness, they could see the rot that has set in on their souls. Even at the end, John McCain knew what he was doing and he was a fearsome opponent. He wanted a pageant of everything this administration* has trashed and put up for sale, and that's what he got Saturday—a morality play shot through with Shakespearian portent and foreshadowing, a pageant of democracy's vengeance.

THIS WAS A FUNERAL WITH MORE THAN ONE PURPOSE
This is not to minimize the genuine affection and love that was on display. John McCain was a beloved figure to many of the people who came to bid him farewell. But there was so much subtext under the proceedings that the mantle shattered, and subtext became text, plain as the rain that fell and passed while the service continued. This was a funeral with more than one purpose—to celebrate the passing of John McCain and to summon a rebirth of politics that did not so much reek of grift and vodka.


Full article: https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...in-funeral-service/?__twitter_impression=true
 
you’re still an asshole
If your only connection to me is defending shitty suburban politics or hating John Calipari, then I can totally understand why you think that. Fortunately i'm not trying to make online friends on the basis of either of those topics.
 
If your only connection to me is defending shitty suburban politics or hating John Calipari, then I can totally understand why you think that. Fortunately i'm not trying to make online friends on the basis of either of those topics.

Great branding there...you should throw that on a bumper sticker. Should really help bring people into your tent.
 
Really want for us to be allies, seems like we should be, but you continue with a shitty disengenious interpretation of my POV. Recognizing and fixing an inefficiency (or derilection) in the focus of the party IS NOT going to hurt turnout. Did Gillum's particular campaign change of focus hurt turnout in Florida? You know it didnt. I don't deserve your bad faith.

Gillum did quite well with "suburban elitists."

Gillum won my county and Dem turnout was higher in the suburbs and stronger for Gillum in the suburbs.
 
Great branding there...you should throw that on a bumper sticker. Should really help bring people into your tent.
You already did
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Gillum did quite well with "suburban elitists."

Gillum won my county and Dem turnout was higher in the suburbs and stronger for Gillum in the suburbs.
"focus" of campaign, not outcome of election
 
You already did
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How is this “shitty suburban politics”?

Here’s a pro tip...when 55% of the country lives in a suburb...and the suburbs are the fastest growing segment of the country (yes even faster than urban areas)...I wouldn’t piss all over and alienate these people. Especially when many are likely to embrace progressive causes like gun control, public education and a fair and equitable financial system that won’t wreck home values again.

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2018...ends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/
 
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