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Report: Kavanaugh won’t commit to recusal from Trump/Mueller related matters

Newenglanddeac said:
And it’s all a sport in real life too.

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I joked about a week ago that when Kavanaugh was confirmed and reached the Court, he and Thomas would open a keg and start grabbing some female staffer's butts in celebration. I may have been wrong to say it was a joke. Winning!
 
RJKarl said:
Manchin was weak, but his vote was totally irrelevant. Had Collins or Flake voted no, he would have joined them.

I'd make a very, very, very sizable wager that Schumer personally Ok'd that vote.
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LOL
 
Manchin isn't my favorite either. But it's either him or a hardcore tea party Trump supporter as a West Virginia senator for the next 6 years so I would rather him win.
 
bmoneydeac said:
Wrangor (outside of abortion) where do you see intersections between your Christian faith and the Republican Party? I’m pretty anti-religion at this point in my life but know a fair amount about Jesus and just can’t reconcile his teachings with the party’s platform.
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14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

2 James 14-17.
 
06deacon said:
14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

2 James 14-17.
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That's not the Jesus most of the Religious Right recognizes. They prefer the Baby Ninja Jeezus, or the Prosperity Gospel Jeezus. And, don't ever tell them that Jesus wasn't white.
 
"Originally Posted by RJKarl View Post
Manchin was weak, but his vote was totally irrelevant. Had Collins or Flake voted no, he would have joined them.

I'd make a very, very, very sizable wager that Schumer personally Ok'd that vote."{

Strickland33 said:
LOL
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Other than your ignorance of how the world works, what it funny?

"Manchin was weak" - Very true

"but his vote was totally irrelevant" - Also very true. If he voted no, it would have been 49-49 and Pence would have vote yes.

"Had Collins or Flake voted no, he would have joined them" - also very likely true. He would have been a total outcast with Dems forever had he been the only Dem to vote yes and put Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court.

RE:Wager -if you don't think this happens in many, if not most close votes, on both sides you are ignorant of how Congress works.

The only thing "lol" here is your arrogant ignorance of how our government works.
 
06deacon said:
14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

2 James 14-17.
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That's not the Jesus most of the Religious Right recognizes. They prefer the Baby Ninja Jeezus, or the Prosperity Gospel Jeezus, or the Super Americun Patriot Jeezus. And, don't ever tell them that Jesus wasn't white.
 
Lectro said:
Go crawl back under your rock. Christianity, with its forward directed typology, gave you the epistemological foundation upon which modern civilization rests, you ignorant snot nosed little shit.

sans the “ignorant snot nosed little shit” the above statement is reflective of the great Northrop Frye. An intellect that would easily dwarf the collection of midgets gathered on this sleepy internet outpost.
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Modern civilization rests upon the advancement of science and technology, something that organized Christian religion has resisted, suppressed and attacked throughout history.
 
birdman said:
Modern civilization rests upon the advancement of science and technology, something that organized Christian religion has resisted, suppressed and attacked throughout history.
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Sort of, but not to the degree people seem to think. The advancement of science and technology was fundamentally Christian (and Islamic). The Christian and Islamic middle ages responsible for the foundation of the modern university, early articulation of modern scientific principles, and the translation of Classical knowledge to the west.
 
The Fox opinion page has an editorial on the "lessons" of Kavanaugh's victory that's pretty telling, albeit unintentionally I'm sure. Some guy named Wayne Allyn Root effusively praises Trump and the GOP for their endless winning. He writes that Trump's score so far in his presidency is "Trump 100, Democrats 0", and praises Trump for "teaching us all lessons about #WINNING...it's all about your ability to bare knuckles brawl. Winning isn't about brains, or IQ, or brilliant ideas, or unique strategy." No, "winning is all about being a relentless fighter, it's all about who wants it more. Trump always wants it more."

He just goes on and on like a Fox version of lectro, but I thought there were three very telling things about his little celebratory rant: He never says that Kavanaugh was innocent of the sexual assault, or that Ford was lying. It's not even a factor in his "lessons." What mattered was that Kavanaugh won, not that he was innocent. Morality doesn't even factor into his lessons, it's about the endless winning. Second, he admits in the passage above that winning isn't about having the better ideas or smarter candidates, it's all about being tougher and meaner and more ruthless than your enemies and doing whatever it takes to win, even if it means getting into the gutter. That's certainly an odd attitude to have in a supposedly civilized democracy, in a Supreme Court hearing, not a war. Third, he praises the GOP for adopting Trump's style and claims that the GOP has "always been the party of wimps", but says that even Collins has now adopted Trump's win-at-all costs attitude. He also gives a backhanded slap to Kavanaugh by claiming that before the hearings Kavanaugh was a "wimpy, middle-aged judge from Yale" who didn't have it in him to fight dirty, but he learned how to be a man and fight like one from Trump. So, before the hearings Kavanaugh was just another brainy elitist, but now he's a Real American because he's a brawler like Trump.

So this is what the GOP has become under Trump: a party that only cares about winning and doesn't care at all about the methods or tactics that are used to achieve it, that openly celebrates bullying, brawling, and using whatever it takes to win, and clearly doesn't care about the morals or character of the people who are leading the party, as long as they're seen as "winners". Who cares if Kavanaugh is guilty of sexual assault or lying in his testimony? That's for wimps to care about. Winners just win and ignore that stuff. This is what Democrats in government and in society as a whole are now up against. How they respond to this challenge may well determine the very future of our democracy.
 
RJKarl said:
And Jews had nothing to do with it...
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Not really in the Middle Ages, no. Hebrew science was very insular and some Jewish philosophers saw science as a threat to their community. Exceptions are a couple of astronomers in like the thirteenth century, but even then their work was based on large part on Arabic foundations.
 
wakephan09 said:
Not really in the Middle Ages, no. Hebrew science was very insular and some Jewish philosophers saw science as a threat to their community. Exceptions are a couple of astronomers in like the thirteenth century, but even then their work was based on large part on Arabic foundations.
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Christians excommunicated and killed scientists for being heretics.
 
RJKarl said:
Christians excommunicated and killed scientists for being heretics.
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Oh yeah? Tell us more.

I'm not going to argue that Jews weren't responsible for a number of important advancements in science and technology, just not during the particular foundational period I'm talking about. And there are plenty of reasonable explanations for that.

Anyways, all of this to say that lectro continues to spout utter nonsense under the guise of sophistication hoping that nobody on these boards is familiar enough with stuff he's taking about to call him on it.
 
wakephan09 said:
Oh yeah? Tell us more.

I'm not going to argue that Jews weren't responsible for a number of important advancements in science and technology, just not during the particular foundational period I'm talking about. And there are plenty of reasonable explanations for that.

Anyways, all of this to say that lectro continues to spout utter nonsense under the guise of sophistication hoping that nobody on these boards is familiar enough with stuff he's taking about to call him on it.
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I don’t find any issues with wakephan’s characterization of Jews here.
 
Highland Deac said:
The Fox opinion page has an editorial on the "lessons" of Kavanaugh's victory that's pretty telling, albeit unintentionally I'm sure. Some guy named Wayne Allyn Root effusively praises Trump and the GOP for their endless winning. He writes that Trump's score so far in his presidency is "Trump 100, Democrats 0", and praises Trump for "teaching us all lessons about #WINNING...it's all about your ability to bare knuckles brawl. Winning isn't about brains, or IQ, or brilliant ideas, or unique strategy." No, "winning is all about being a relentless fighter, it's all about who wants it more. Trump always wants it more."

He just goes on and on like a Fox version of lectro, but I thought there were three very telling things about his little celebratory rant: He never says that Kavanaugh was innocent of the sexual assault, or that Ford was lying. It's not even a factor in his "lessons." What mattered was that Kavanaugh won, not that he was innocent. Morality doesn't even factor into his lessons, it's about the endless winning. Second, he admits in the passage above that winning isn't about having the better ideas or smarter candidates, it's all about being tougher and meaner and more ruthless than your enemies and doing whatever it takes to win, even if it means getting into the gutter. That's certainly an odd attitude to have in a supposedly civilized democracy, in a Supreme Court hearing, not a war. Third, he praises the GOP for adopting Trump's style and claims that the GOP has "always been the party of wimps", but says that even Collins has now adopted Trump's win-at-all costs attitude. He also gives a backhanded slap to Kavanaugh by claiming that before the hearings Kavanaugh was a "wimpy, middle-aged judge from Yale" who didn't have it in him to fight dirty, but he learned how to be a man and fight like one from Trump. So, before the hearings Kavanaugh was just another brainy elitist, but now he's a Real American because he's a brawler like Trump.

So this is what the GOP has become under Trump: a party that only cares about winning and doesn't care at all about the methods or tactics that are used to achieve it, that openly celebrates bullying, brawling, and using whatever it takes to win, and clearly doesn't care about the morals or character of the people who are leading the party, as long as they're seen as "winners". Who cares if Kavanaugh is guilty of sexual assault or lying in his testimony? That's for wimps to care about. Winners just win and ignore that stuff. This is what Democrats in government and in society as a whole are now up against. How they respond to this challenge may well determine the very future of our democracy.
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Whoa. Is this the sports handicapper?
 
harmoniousmonk said:
Whoa. Is this the sports handicapper?
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I think so. And, a Fox News opinion guru as well. His opinion pieces on their website are (unintentionally) hilarious, as he's orgasmic about Trump every time. He probably sleeps with a Trump doll and a framed picture of him over his bed.
 
Mark Harris, a former Baptist leader, is the GOP candidate for Congress in my district. He won the primary by cozying up to trump more than the incumbent. I get mailers about his promise to preserve my tax cut. I look forward to hearing more about his strong faith juxtaposed alongside support for the cruelty and ignorance of the trump admin. 2 James 14-17.
 
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