Ongoing US GOP Debacle Thread: Seditious Republicans march toward authoritarianism

[MHBDemon]

no, im feeling particularly nihilistic because I genuinely don't think a centrist or leftist agenda has a legitimate shot now that the Right has figured out how to game the system

Ah the ole "nothing works so I'll just shit on other people's ideas while never presenting my own" argument.

If it is simply "nothing works" then why would you say "and you wonder how Trump can win by calling women Horseface and committing tax fraud" suggesting it is somehow the result of left ideology and not the result of failed centrist liberalism.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

Ah the ole "nothing works so I'll just shit on other people's ideas while never presenting my own" argument.

If it is simply "nothing works" then why would you say "and you wonder how Trump can win by calling women Horseface and committing tax fraud" suggesting it is somehow the result of left ideology and not the result of failed centrist liberalism.

i mean, i just said what works and the Left doesn't have the ability

 

[MHBDemon]

willingness to be flexible in their political views, ie the ITCs of the world.

i mean, i just said what works and the Left doesn't have the ability

I'm in awe of your willingness to be so flexible in your political views, and your ability to evade questions.

 

[ChrisL68]

The 25% on the right are a lot more politically astute than the 8% on the left

 

[ImTheCaptain]

I'm in awe of your willingness to be so flexible in your political views, and your ability to evade questions.

"Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man"

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

The 25% on the right are a lot more politically astute than the 8% on the left

Its entertaining how quickly you all are latching onto a halfbaked political survey about political correctness. If you used a modicum of comprehension when reading about it, you would realize the noted "liberal activists" are you, and your wives and sisters, who spent hundreds of dollars to fly to the womens march. The people who make covfefe memes and still shriek about Trumps decorum. DSA isnt door knocking about political correctness.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

Its entertaining how quickly you all are latching onto a halfbaked political survey about political correctness. If you used a modicum of comprehension when reading about it, you would realize the "liberal activists" are you, and your wives and sisters, who spent hundreds of dollars to fly to the womens march. The people who make covfefe memes and still shriek about Trumps decorum.

why don't we all just wait to see what happens in November to crow about wives and sisters

 

[MHBDemon]

"Fixed fortifications are a monument to the stupidity of man"

Yes. A good description of the Democratic Party.

 

[RJKarl]

With the weakness and age at the top of the Democratic Party, there couldn't be a better time to put in the work to take it over than now. If the 18-35 group of voters turns out and starts demanding the power that comes with turning the House and keeping the Senate close, it could start happening.

Show up and take what you want.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

Yes. A good description of the Democratic Party.

yeah, per your own harping, it's the Democrats who are rigid in their positions

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

why don't we all just wait to see what happens in November to crow about wives and sisters

Oh man, is the Democratic Party going to have a reactionary wave of downballot midterm victories in response to an unpopular President from the opposition party?! Wha? That will be totally unprecedented. You're not 12 dude, you know a historically cyclical event wont prove a damn thing.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

Oh man, is the Democratic Party going to have a reactionary wave of downballot midterm victories in response to an unpopular President from the opposition party?! Wha? That will be totally unprecedented. You're not 12 dude, you know a historically cyclical event wont prove a damn thing.

the excuses begin.

 

[MHBDemon]

yeah, per your own harping, it's the Democrats who are rigid in their positions

They aren't? Do you have a point here?

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

the excuses begin.

While we're at it, maybe we should bet on the tides and the sunrise as well? Fashion trends? Do the wheels on the bus go round....AND round? Its a mystery.

 

[ImTheCaptain]

They aren't? Do you have a point here?

yeah, i don't think the Far Left's message is very good and the jury is decidedly out on the tactic of rejecting 'centrist' values (or condemning/damning as 'republican' at worst)

and to be clear, this is less about the values/positions and more about the marketing. I don't have a problem wit Progressive agenda, per se. I have a problem with losing to republicans and nothing I've seen or read convinces me that Progressives are going to win on a wider scale than traditional Democrats

 

[ImTheCaptain]

While we're at it, maybe we should bet on the tides and the sunrise as well? Fashion trends? Do the wheels on the bus go round....AND round? Its a mystery.

"centrist dems doomed the mid terms ! !1!!!"

or do i get to say meh to the [officially licensed] progressive wins after the #nothingburger cyclical election next month

 

[PhDeac]

What would need to happen in November to convince people that the Progressive wing of the party has momentum?

 

[ImTheCaptain]

What would need to happen in November to convince people that the Progressive wing of the party has momentum?

great question, b/c dweedle dee just told me it's cyclical

 

[MHBDemon]

yeah, i don't think the Far Left's message is very good and the jury is decidedly out on the tactic of rejecting 'centrist' values (or condemning/damning as 'republican' at worst)

and to be clear, this is less about the values/positions and more about the marketing. I don't have a problem wit Progressive agenda, per se. I have a problem with losing to republicans and nothing I've seen or read convinces me that Progressives are going to win on a wider scale than traditional Democrats

It's fine if you want to make this argument, but make it. Instead we get all this bullshit. First you argue that some shit study on political correctness proves your politics being more representative of the common man than mine. When I say "well the study didn't say that," you move to an argument about strategy. That argument then morphs into which strategy best fits a Patton quote.

Between DSA and Democratic machine which strategy is the fixed fortification?

 

[myDeaconmyhand]

"centrist dems doomed the mid terms ! !1!!!"

or do i get to say meh to the [officially licensed] progressive wins after the #nothingburger cyclical election next month

To start, you're dodging the point - that "political correctness" activists =/= Bernie-Bro socialists. I only remember one presidential candidate stating "breaking up the big banks won't end racism". The "liberal activists" mentioned in that article, as a fringe minority, are far more aligned with your level of vapid, surface level liberalism, than mine.

You motherfuckers are more concerned with celebrity cultural appropriation and Trumps tweets than you are about actual policy. You shrug when a corporation blackmails a city council out of raising a corporate tax for homeless shelters. What about the "20 million dollar small businesses!?" you ask. That's the level of liberal you are, and America despises you for it.