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Middle East: Saudis Murder & Dismember Washington Post Contributor

Wakeforest22890 said:
And then of course the dependable Daily Wire

"Democrats Know They Can Always Count on the Media"

Everyone agrees that Elizabeth Warren's DNA test and the Democrats ability to always rely on the media is a much bigger story today than one of our major allies in the Middle East hacking up a journalist who was an American permanent resident and affiliated with the Washington Post when he walked into an embassy in Turkey to get marriage paperwork.
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I think it is pretty obvious that the right wants to shy away from this. The US has a long and shady history of using Saudi Arabia as an ally regardless of what parties in power. If it was the other way around Dems would be sitting quietly while republicans fauxed outrage. Reality is there is not a lot of good options so it is the ideal time for the opposing party to attack without having to be responsible for coming up with solutions.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
I think it is pretty obvious that the right wants to shy away from this. The US has a long and shady history of using Saudi Arabia as an ally regardless of what parties in power. If it was the other way around Dems would be sitting quietly while republicans fauxed outrage. Reality is there is not a lot of good options so it is the ideal time for the opposing party to attack without having to be responsible for coming up with solutions.
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WTFabout22 never fails.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
I think it is pretty obvious that the right wants to shy away from this. The US has a long and shady history of using Saudi Arabia as an ally regardless of what parties in power. If it was the other way around Dems would be sitting quietly while republicans fauxed outrage. Reality is there is not a lot of good options so it is the ideal time for the opposing party to attack without having to be responsible for coming up with solutions.
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The guy who describes himself as an "anti war pacifist" is also defending Republican support for the Saudi war in Yemen and then using "there is not a lot of good options" as a way to avoid his hypocrisy.

One solution would be to stop supporting the Saudi coalition, but all but 5 republican senators voted against that. How the fuck do you reconcile being an anti war pacifist and supporting the modern day GOP? In fairness, it's difficult to reconcile being anti-war and supporting either party.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
I think it is pretty obvious that the right wants to shy away from this. The US has a long and shady history of using Saudi Arabia as an ally regardless of what parties in power. If it was the other way around Dems would be sitting quietly while republicans fauxed outrage. Reality is there is not a lot of good options so it is the ideal time for the opposing party to attack without having to be responsible for coming up with solutions.
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Regardless of what party was in power I believe that this story would still be the headline on CNN and other major news sites (both domestically and internationally - as it is today). I believe that if Obama were president that this would be a talking point on FoxNews, Breitbart, and The Daily Wire for years rather than buried totally.

Do you disagree?
 
MHBDemon said:
The guy who describes himself as an "anti war pacifist" is also defending Republican support for the Saudi war in Yemen and then using "there is not a lot of good options" as a way to avoid his hypocrisy.

One solution would be to stop supporting the Saudi coalition, but all but 5 republican senators voted against that. How the fuck do you reconcile being an anti war pacifist and supporting the modern day GOP? In fairness, it's difficult to reconcile being anti-war and supporting either party.
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I don’t support republican defense of our relationship to The Saudi’s. I’m ok disagreeing with the GOP.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Regardless of what party was in power I believe that this story would still be the headline on CNN and other major news sites (both domestically and internationally - as it is today). I believe that if Obama were president that this would be a talking point on FoxNews, Breitbart, and The Daily Wire for years rather than buried totally.

Do you disagree?
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Yes I agree, I said the same thing in the post you quoted.

In that scenario though I do think CNN and Liberal media outlets would squash the story though. Of course there is no way to prove that, but I would go with the Ellison test as a way it would apply to this story.
 
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WFcatamount22 said:
Yes I agree, I said the same thing in the post you quoted.

In that scenario though I do think CNN and Liberal media outlets would squash the story though. Of course there is no way to prove that, but I would go with the Ellison test as a way it would apply to this story.
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Why would they squash the story? In that hypothetical does Obama have former (maybe current) financial ties to Saudi Arabia and has made passing remarks about innocent until proven guilty? The story is the Saudi action at this point and that’s not even getting attention from the conservative news. Forget the American response at this point, the conservative wing of the media isn’t even reporting on the event itself.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
Why would they squash the story? In that hypothetical does Obama have former (maybe current) financial ties to Saudi Arabia and has made passing remarks about innocent until proven guilty? The story is the Saudi action at this point and that’s not even getting attention from the conservative news. Forget the American response at this point, the conservative wing of the media isn’t even reporting on the event itself.
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First of not true, conservative news outlets have covered this story. They might not have headlines at this moment, but they have been running headlines all week up until now.

Obama might not have personal financial ties to the Saudi's, but the US certainly did/does. I think Obama would have handled the situation better, but I am not sure if he would have stopped arms deals, and business investments. If he didn't I know he would have gotten a pass from the liberal media, and CRUSHED hypocritically by conservative news outlets until the end of time.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
First of not true, conservative news outlets have covered this story. They might not have headlines at this moment, but they have been running headlines all week up until now.

Obama might not have personal financial ties to the Saudi's, but the US certainly did/does. I think Obama would have handled the situation better, but I am not sure if he would have stopped arms deals, and business investments. If he didn't I know he would have gotten a pass from the liberal media, and CRUSHED hypocritically by conservative news outlets until the end of time.
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Dude. The news TODAY has shown that the suspect is directly tied to the crown prince and that Jamal was killed within minutes after entering the embassy and dismembered quickly. If conservative media has really been running headlines on this story, today's news is pretty critical.
 
WFcatamount22 said:
I bet I have voted for more democrats than you have republicans.
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You would be wrong. Jesus- you are what, like 23? You haven't even participated in enough elections for it to matter on anything other than a percentage basis. And even if you felt particularly important voting for a democrat on the Austin City Council, it doesn't change the fact you are a fucking broken republican boot-lick.
 
If there has been coverage of it I haven't seen it on those sites (at least "above the fold"). I generally go through most news sites, left and right, in the morning but admittedly the last week has been pretty hectic with other things going on.

As people know, I voted pretty staunchly Republican in 2008, started shifting support in 2010 and have been essentially straight-party Democrat since the wave in 2010. I'm going to vote for Baker in the gubernatorial election up here next month, but he's not particularly conservative.
 
I think one of the issues here is the history of Saudi abduction, torture and (most likely) murder on our nation's behalf.

What they did was outrageous, but probably right out of the U.S. playbook.
 
Wakeforest22890 said:
If there has been coverage of it I haven't seen it on those sites (at least "above the fold"). I generally go through most news sites, left and right, in the morning but admittedly the last week has been pretty hectic with other things going on.

As people know, I voted pretty staunchly Republican in 2008, started shifting support in 2010 and have been essentially straight-party Democrat since the wave in 2010. I'm going to vote for Baker in the gubernatorial election up here next month, but he's not particularly conservative.
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Very similar to my voting trajectory.
 
BillBrasky said:
I think one of the issues here is the history of Saudi abduction, torture and (most likely) murder on our nation's behalf.

What they did was outrageous, but probably right out of the U.S. playbook.
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Sure. While it pales in comparison to the role we played with the UK in Iran in the 50's, it doesn't mean that in 2018 we have to just roll over and say "well we did it too so c'est la vie."
 
The equivocation from catamount is sickening.
 
To be fair, Breitbart is focused on real, breaking news with their main stories today:

"Gillum Graduated Training School That Spawned Soros Army of Revolutionaries"
 
DeaconSig said:
You would be wrong. Jesus- you are what, like 23? You haven't even participated in enough elections for it to matter on anything other than a percentage basis. And even if you felt particularly important voting for a democrat on the Austin City Council, it doesn't change the fact you are a fucking broken republican boot-lick.
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Typical OGboards dem...Just hurling insults. It's all you guys do and it's pathetic.
 
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