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Possible Wake Forest Coaching Candidates Analysis

ilovecarpet said:
What I have learned from individuals within and close to the WFU Athletics Department:

1) Buyout for Manning is closer to $16M. I’m assuming the $18M number reported by Goodman may come from the sum of this year’s pay + buyout of $16M.

2) Manning is gone at the conclusion of the season.

This is stuff everyone already pretty much knows. But I was happy to have some confirmation about what’s really going on. Especially since RW is manipulator and habitual liar.
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Are you kidding me? Why would we pay a 16m buyout on a contract that isn't even worth 12m at this point....?
 
Wrangor said:
Are you kidding me? Why would we pay a 16m buyout on a contract that isn't even worth 12m at this point....?
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Guarantee or buyout. I edited to say guarantee. But to be honest, I don’t know anything about contracts and $16M is the number I heard.
 
Wrangor said:
Are you kidding me? Why would we pay a 16m buyout on a contract that isn't even worth 12m at this point....?
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Remember when some posters were worried that Manning would leave for Kansas or even the NBA? Maybe they negotiated a huge buyout on both ends to get him to stay long term. Yes that’s ridiculous but if people were posting it here, maybe people in power were thinking it too.
 
PhDeac said:
Remember when some posters were worried that Manning would leave for Kansas or even the NBA? Maybe they negotiated a huge buyout on both ends to get him to stay long term. Yes that’s ridiculous but if people were posting it here, maybe people in power were thinking it too.
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That would truly be ridiculous. 1 16m guarantee would be a terrible decision, but somewhat within the realm of possibility because that would simply mean they guaranteed the entire contract. a 16m buyout is unfathomable as that would mean we were so scared he would leave that we were banking on another school paying us 16m if they wanted him. That is a massive misjudgment. I think even those of us who were willing to stay positive during that time period (4th year) were never thinking that Manning deserved a massive contract, and certainly weren't under the impression that any other schools were sneaking up to steal him. That would be a truly incredible number, and to be honest is probably the reason that Wellman is gone (if that number is actually true).
 
ilovecarpet said:
What I have learned from individuals within and close to the WFU Athletics Department:

1) Guarantee for Manning is closer to $16M. I’m assuming the $18M number reported by Goodman may come from the sum of this year’s pay + buyout of $16M.

2) Manning is gone at the conclusion of the season.

This is stuff everyone already pretty much knows. But I was happy to have some confirmation about what’s really going on. Especially since RW is a manipulator and habitual liar.
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That kind of number sounds more reasonable if it is the total Danny will have made from Wake, including all his earnings to date plus buyout of his remaining contract. $16 million more, for a contract that should only have $12 million left.

If $16 million is owed Danny on top of everything else already paid him...
 
LOL Danny should just retire then and never have to worry again. That is insane money for one first four appearance.
 
MikeDeac said:
I know the Board thinks this concept unlikely, but I have had over ten people, who know of my Wake mania, here in Richmond walk up to me and say they heard Shaka is coming to Wake. It was one at the time I put it on here but if it is incorrect there are certainly VCU connected people who are speaking about it as if it is a given.
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Would love it if that's true. I work at VCU and got so much crap last go around for suggesting Shaka would look at Wake
 
GeeseGeese14 said:
Would love it if that's true. I work at VCU and got so much crap last go around for suggesting Shaka would look at Wake
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I'm not sure that being his back-up school is really going to be the sick burn you're hoping it to be.
 
DeacsNDayton said:
I agree with your assessment that Shaka is a better fit at Wake. Basketball is the flagship program at VCU and Shaka owned it. The fans were as passionate as any. At Texas basketball takes a back seat to football...and possibly even their baseball team as well. Last year their baseball team broke a UT attendance record. Wake's flagship program is basketball and, for that reason (plus the colors are gold and black for both schools) I 2nd your motion regarding Shaka.

Do work JC....quickly please!
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In 1999 basketball was definitely the flagship program. But the football success of Grobe and now Clawson combined with the basketball failures of Bz and Manning as elevated football above basketball.
 
LilburnDeac said:
In 1999 basketball was definitely the flagship program. But the football success of Grobe and now Clawson combined with the basketball failures of Bz and Manning as elevated football above basketball.
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Plus ACC expansion.
 
LilburnDeac said:
In 1999 basketball was definitely the flagship program. But the football success of Grobe and now Clawson combined with the basketball failures of Bz and Manning as elevated football above basketball.
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I can see the validity of your point. And I agree that football has taken the front burner away from the basketball team. But would there be as much uproar if the football team had had 9 years of this level of suckitude? I don't know...maybe it would. JMO that the level of anger and frustration wouldn't be as high as it is for basketball. Your point, however, is well taken.
 
ilovecarpet said:
What I have learned from individuals within and close to the WFU Athletics Department:

1) Guarantee for Manning is closer to $16M. I’m assuming the $18M number reported by Goodman may come from the sum of this year’s pay + buyout of $16M.

2) Manning is gone at the conclusion of the season.

This is stuff everyone already pretty much knows. But I was happy to have some confirmation about what’s really going on. Especially since RW is a manipulator and habitual liar.
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To your first point, maybe so, but there will be negotiations and we will owe far less than $16mil...slice that in half and we will be close.
 
DeacsNDayton said:
I can see the validity of your point. And I agree that football has taken the front burner away from the basketball team. But would there be as much uproar if the football team had had 9 years of this level of suckitude? I don't know...maybe it would. JMO that the level of anger and frustration wouldn't be as high as it is for basketball. Your point, however, is well taken.
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Football at Wake has never reached the heights that basketball has. ACC championships, number 1 ranking in polls, legitimate contender for national title. First pick in the NBA draft. The fans also are in an air conditioned/heated building. Not outside in the elements.

More people connect with individual basketball players. They are playing in shorts and T shirts, not a total suit of armor that covers up much of the player's individuality.
 
Deaconblue said:
Football at Wake has never reached the heights that basketball has. ACC championships, number 1 ranking in polls, legitimate contender for national title. First pick in the NBA draft. The fans also are in an air conditioned/heated building. Not outside in the elements.

More people connect with individual basketball players. They are playing in shorts and T shirts, not a total suit of armor that covers up much of the player's individuality.
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Orange Bowl = Final Four
 
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