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2020 Democratic Presidential Nominees

PhDeac said:
It’s the most interesting matchup to me. They seem to occupy the same lane but Warren clearly wants to fix capitalism and Bernie wants to replace it although perhaps not as much as his biggest supporters want to. If I’m Warren, this is the matchup I want. If she takes down Bernie, she can take over the lead. I just don’t think Bernie can go toe to toe with her.

This is a huge chance for Warren and Harris to continue their momentum before they face each other.

The other question if it Pete or Beto will grab the third spot for the night. Will they get their points in? Will they go at Warren or Bernie?
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Pete, yes. Beto, no. Beto is donezo.
 
You can add Cory Booker to the list of Dem candidates who are finished. When your main claim to national fame is comparing yourself Spartacus, and then you allow Beta the Dourke, a self-hating, groveling, pathetic excuse for a human being, to preempt and upstage you at the first Dem debate, you are undeniably and irredeemably road kill, pal. You can stick a fork in Cory.

No one will miss Cory, in the same way that no one has noticed him; that's for sure.
 
sailordeac said:
typical nonsense from and an anti-Semite, hater, and fool
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It appears sailor has slipped into the “no longer can type coherent sentences” part of dementia.

My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family in these troubled times, comrade.
 
Unionized campaign organizers working for Sen. Bernie Sanders’s presidential effort are battling with its management, arguing that the compensation and treatment they are receiving does not meet the standards Sanders espouses in his rhetoric, according to internal communications.

Campaign field hires have demanded an annual salary they say would be equivalent to a $15-an-hour wage, which Sanders for years has said should be the federal minimum. The organizers and other employees supporting them have invoked the senator’s words and principles in making their case to campaign manager Faiz Shakir, the documents reviewed by The Washington Post show.
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At least he pays his people unlike Trump who stiffs contractors and cities. Sailor have you commented on that yet?
 
DDA said:
At least he pays his people unlike Trump who stiffs contractors and cities. Sailor have you commented on that yet?
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Among those contractors were Polish workers he made sleep on concrete floors when rebuilding Trump Tower. He didn't pay them and held their passports to force them to work.
 
Reading a lot today for some reason about how Trump could lose the populer vote by 5M(!) and still win the EC. Seems like there is a good chance of that happening. All efforts should be going to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact and getting rid of the EC. If this happens again and he losed by 5M votes, it's a major fucking crisis and everything about our process is a sham.

 
Whomever is the Dem nominee, the campaign should make a huge deal on how much money Trump has made off of the government for all his golf trips. They should show how much the Trump kids have made while Daddy is POTUS. I'd guess a bunch of the people who voted for Trump in PA, WI, MI, OH, AZ, FL and other places won't be happy to see the numbers of how the Trump family has used the government as an ATM while they have been struggling.
 
Shooshmoo said:
Reading a lot today for some reason about how Trump could lose the populer vote by 5M(!) and still win the EC. Seems like there is a good chance of that happening. All efforts should be going to the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact and getting rid of the EC. If this happens again and he losed by 5M votes, it's a major fucking crisis and everything about our process is a sham.

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I've been saying this for several months. When you postulate that the Dem nominee will win the NE and West Coast by even bigger majorities, and big population centers like TX and GA are getting more purple, it makes sense that the Dem nominee will have to win the popular vote by at least 4-5% in order to win the EC. David Brooks mentioned this last night in his segment with Mark Shields.

Also agree with Milhouse that Trump's golf trips are irrelevant. What is relevant is Trump's war of words with the Group of 4 Dem congresswomen. And he wants this war of words to remain in the news both on Fox and the MSM outlets. In order to win re-election, he's going scorched earth, and he wants to paint the Group of 4 as the face of the Dem party in the attempt to sway establishment Pubs and independents to vote for him. Expect to hear the words socialism and socialist a bunch.
 
There are still plenty of major swing district races on the coasts.
 
The EC fight doesn’t matter unless you win PA, MI, and WI back. I think GA, OH and AZ could be in play in the right circumstances, but I think they are likely red states. The Democratic win condition is very narrow. Have to go hard in the upper MW.
 
AsesinoDeTortugas said:
The EC fight doesn’t matter unless you win PA, MI, and WI back. I think GA, OH and AZ could be in play in the right circumstances, but I think they are likely red states. The Democratic win condition is very narrow. Have to go hard in the upper MW.
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NC may be more likely to be in play than OH. Obama won NC in 2008 by a very close margin, and he lost it in 2012 by less than two percent. Trump won by less than 4%, and that was with most rural counties voting for him by 70% or more. I think the GOP vote is close to being maxed out in these rural areas, while the Dem vote in urban areas like Mecklenburg, Wake, Guilford, etc. is still growing. It definitely leans GOP, but I don't think it's a lock by any means, especially if Cooper can make a strong re-election bid and the Dem Senate candidate can organize a strong grassroots effort. I agree that the 3 key states are PA, MI, and WI in the Midwest, if the Dems lose any one of those, it's going to be extremely difficult for them to win. AZ is definitely a strong possibility, as Sinema won an impressive victory in her Senate race there last year.
 
I think Kelly’s chances of beating McSally are at least as good as Sinema’s were. Kelly matches her military bonus and McSally is a damaged incumbent because she lost.
 
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